Transformers "Raiden" Project

Discussion in 'Transformers News and Rumors' started by chchchch, Oct 18, 2019.

  1. Paco Grande

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    Well the issue hear is that they needed to match Getsuei who is one of the smallest trains. They both needed to be the same height in bot mode and leg mode. And Yuki is twice the size of Getsuei in train mode. So the solution was a gazillion panels, unfortunately. Not sure if you own the set, but when you see them together it's actually ridiculous how much larger Yuki is in alt mode and it's a miracle it worked at all. But that is the price you have to pay when being so dedicated to perfect scale. If this set was not done perfectly to scale for alt modes the bot and Raiden modes could have been a lot better. But you know...... train fans were apparently the target market here, not Transformers fans. Which is why I'm not a fan of this set.
     
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  2. KylerWilmoth

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    I'm not even a "train fan" really, but I would have been quite upset had each train been a different scale or had football proportions like the moon studios set. Alt modes are just as important to me as robot modes so I'm quite happy with the direction they went. They look amazing together
     
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    If Yulikaze had been a parts former, he could have had a cleaner transformation and they could have used the extra train length to help the combined mods, like maby the back half flips inside out to become part of the waist to flesh out Kaen.
     
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    Had it resulted in a better figure I would have been all for it!
     
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    Slowly warming up to Raiden mode.....

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  7. Paco Grande

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    Yeah I get that. I was just explaining why Yuki is such a mess.

    And my point about scale is that many people are skipping this set including some pretty hardcore TT MP fans because the bot modes aren’t toon enough and Raiden is not even close to toon enough or tall enough. I completely agree that the Moon Studios trains look like blimps. But I was hoping Takara could pull off some magic like they usually do and make a better combiner out of these trains. I really hate fake add-on parts for combiners but I e come to accept that they are required to make it work and Takara should have used them. They seem to have already admitted that by including the waist extender in the next release. But it will need a lot more than that.

    I own this set and I agree that the trains look amazing. But I keep them in train mode and I have not even attempted to combine Raiden yet even though I’ve had Kaen for two months because Raiden looks so bad to me I don’t even want to bother. And that bothers me because for me the combined mode is the mode I want on my shelf and I’m stuck with six trains because that’s the only mode they look good in. I just expected a lot more from the wizards at Takara.

    And if you think there’s too much complaining now, just wait until they get to Devastator who most fans actually care about. It’s going to be miserable in that thread.
     
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    Completely fair and valid take! There's nothing for me to counter because well, that's just your opinion! I know Raiden looks nothing like cartoon raiden, I know he's not very big, and his proportions are kinda weird. I just happen to like it. It's like six real life trains just stood up lol. I'm a big fan of the set so far and can't wait to finally put raiden together later this month. I'm happy that the more obscure characters aren't sunbow identical. I'll take it for starscream, optimus, bumblebee, all the heavy hitters, but I really, really love the added detail in stuff like this. It's what selling me as they aren't characters that I have nostalgia for. They just look cool!
     
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    I don't know at this point why they didn't made the "Sumo ribbon backpack" detachable...

    Anyway, scale goods in Raiden mode with the other (future ones too) JG1 super modes, i'm pretty pacific with the height of Sunbow combiners, that will be in a different scale.
     
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    Prowl2000 Keep it sealed

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    Oh Boy, TFSource package arrived. Now I have Kaen and Hoist. I think I will take a day or two and just look at the boxes.
     
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    Throway You'll never stop at one...

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    Ah yes, over 1,000 USD he says. Opinion discarded
     
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    I usually like Toy Guy, but I just know this will be full of bad takes so I'll just pass. If there are no delays I should receive Kaen tomorrow so I'll get to find out for myself how Raiden feels then.
     
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    $1000 seems pretty accurate, especially since he's talking Canadian dollars.

    As for usd, the MSRPs are
    01 = $169.99
    02 = $140.99
    03 = $144.99
    04 = $149.99
    05 = $154.99
    06 = $139.99
    06s= $179.99
    Total= $900.94-$940.94 before tax and shipping, so unless you were able to get them on discount $1000 is pretty close.
    I love this set, but Raiden is the single most expensive collectable I currently own.


     
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    that is a more chill and reasonable impression on this set because he's honest about it. Unlike hamfistskullface.
    But yeah i expect no less from this thread :confused: 
     
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    octobotimus Bad company ruins good morals

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    Dang people really can’t stand any criticism of figures huh?

    He was rather kind to the set despite his criticism of it, the fact people only read the title or hear 1 mistake and wrote him off as a bad reviewer suddenly is sad. Don’t worry, you won’t hate the figure you like just because someone else said they don’t absolutely love it, it’s ok.
     
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    i also base it on how thorough reviewers are with transformations. he didn’t flip over both train faces for each of the backpacks, for example, which makes me wonder how observant he is elsewhere that may contribute to problem areas. fwiw i’ve never had any issues with loose combiner connections, especially with the leg bots like he had.
     
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    Yeah, once you know what you're doing, the most stable thing about Raiden should be the connection points between each 'bot.

    The worst thing about the combination is some parts on Yukikaze and Shouki that are only very loosely pegged together.

    Otherwise, TTG is like a more chill version of Bobby Skullface. He never really blows up on a toy, but you can tell he doesn't have as much patience for figures that need to be handled with more finesse.
     
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    The guy showed how to correctly peg Raiden's shoulders connectors and said he spent time trying to understand why Getsuei didn't have a solid connection with Kaen, so I'm assuming he did at least a bit of research on the figures before the video. I'm also assuming that the loose leg connection is an isolated problem of his copy. Stull, I have to agree with the conclusions, even at $500 this set wouldn't be worth for me.
     
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