Discussion in 'Transformers News and Rumors' started by chchchch, Oct 18, 2019.
is it a part of Legacy Line?
Will Haslab make Combiner Raiden?
No, it's part of TakaraTomy's Masterpiece line.
And Hasbro's not likely to tackle Raiden anytime soon. Not within ~2 years, at any rate, so as not to undercut TT's MP efforts. They've got other Combiner goals for Legacy.
He's the leader of the bunch, you know him well.
He's finally back, to kick some tail
His Mach laser gun can fire in spurts
If he shoots ya, its gonna hurt!
He's bigger, faster, and stronger too
He's the first member, of the Raiden crew!
(i'm not sorry)
because it doesn't look very good and doesn't give confidence that the set will be very good.
I still need to know hiw big is he.
He's quite cartoon accurate, so saying that he doesn't look very good is the same as saying that you don't like him in the cartoon. Which is fine, but then don't blame it on the looks of the individual robot.
Also, we already quite know what Raiden will look like. I'm not a fan of how Raiden will look yet, but I like the looks of Shouki, so I'm still up the fence whether I'm keeping my pre-ordered or not.
Shouki is just under Ironhide length, which is cartoon accurate. Raiden will only be around 30 cm, which is too small, but you can't have individual robots which are in scale, and have a combined mode that is in scale. I do wish though that Raiden would have been larger. If only they didn't stick to the HO train scale...
My concern is he'll either be the smallest combiner or they'll try to bend the others to be around his height. Still hoping he's closer to 13in versus closer to 12 in.
Still love the colors and the beefiness.
I dunno though… this doesn’t look like a $150 toy. I hope it feels more like one in-hand.
It would have been nice if they gave him some filler panels for the lower legs sides/rear. Back with MP-12, I found it ingenious how Tamara made Sideswipe not look hollow by using some additional panels on his legs.
It’s cause for concern but the good thing is it looks like it’s limited to just the outer panels and windows of the train. I’d be worried if any of the robot mode joints were made out of translucent plastic but that doesn’t look that’s the case here so far.
Current estimates are 17-18cm in bot mode. For comparison, I just checked MP Sunstreaker and Ironhide and they are respectively 16 and 21.5cm, so Shouki seems to be slightly bigger than a carbot.
It's always fun when people talk (write) about something they clearly don't know anything about...
C'mon Crancky, take it to the fridge!
B-B-Bing Hand, CHUG, twelve inch height
Backpack, not painted, and clear plastic shell!
THey? ( I think I got it now )
In general, for those who really really really don't like this and the rest of the team, so simple, just walk away and do a Frozened Elsa.
Remember MP Arcee? When first images of her came out, her face was like
But on hand, actual fig processed by natural eyes, she came out Satoshi U gorgeous!
You're being provided with the animation reference model, which is literally his intended appearance, plus stills from the show where he looks in line with that reference model, but you still claim 'Shouki looks nothing like that'??? I don't even understand your argument at this point! And no, digging out that one scene where all six Trainbots were shown together and they were all drawn with the same slender proportions (and Daniel was half the height of Ultra Magnus ) wont help. That is inaccurate, not the mountain of other sources.
I did not say scale alone qualifies him as MP. I listed six characteristics that indicate he is made to MP standards. Again...
- MP scale for bot mode
- Without typical CHUG hollowed out waffle board thighs and other cost saving shortcuts
- Multiple point hand articulation
- Fully painted
- Painstakingly accurate licensed alt mode
- Die cast parts
And I'd add...
- MP transformation complexity/parts count
- Highly toon accurate appearance
So far you tried unsuccessfully to refute his scale, and also his appearance. What about the other points? Show me a CHUG with all the above features, or even just most, and we can entertain the notion Shouki is made to mainline standards, not MP.
they really should just show us a prototype of the combine mode
Surely he cant be only 12 - 13"? That would be crazily small.
We've already done the estimates and measurements, and the 12" height seems to check out, unless the teaser silhouette is skewed in some way.
It's been brought up many times throughout this thread already, but that's just a reality of how the design functions.
You can already see it with Shouki himself. Despite having a ~12" long train mode, most of that length gets compressed on itself to create a bulkier robot torso instead, that's only about as tall as just the cockpit/nosecone section of the train, less that 1/3 of its total length. And that's the way a lot of the toy's engineering seems to be going. Raiden's animation model is pretty bulky, but it's based on the original toys that have slightly "chibi" vehicle modes. MPG Raiden has realistically-proportioned alt-modes instead, so most of them are long and skinny. So to not have a combined mode that looks like a weird noodle-man, a lot of the toy's mass appears to compress on itself to create bulk, instead of height. The result being a surprisingly-short combined mode.
You can trybto justify the awful price all you want but an 18cm transformer should not be 200.
I'd like to add the cost cutting measures you described are totally present. Those legs are awful, hollow with random bits hanging off.
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