Transformers "Raiden" Project

Discussion in 'Transformers News and Rumors' started by chchchch, Oct 18, 2019.

  1. Nova Maximus

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    That would require them to not do a MP or CHUG G1 toon Menasor.

    Which I'm perfectly fine with.

    Transformmission Havoc is still my favourite looking Menasor in plastic form.
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    you are right, that’s essentially what I meant.
     
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    You say that, yet multiple MPs and a sizeable chunk of WfC/Studio includes feux parts...

    They're not going to redo Menasor this soon, during a screen/scale accurate line only to throw it out the window.
     
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    I was corrected. I meant to say parts form. I’ll edit that.
     
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    WfC introduced modular figures though...which have been incredibly popular.

    Like, I get "parts forming" has become the go-to to dismiss the kind of integrated accessories that Beast Wars was loved for, but if people want a screen accurate Menasor...this is it.

    And it's not even a partsformer. It's still a combiner. Just because people aren't going to like how it comes together, it's still a combiner.
     
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    Technically every combiner is a partsformer :D 
     
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    This will be “Chinese Democracy” I swear
     
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    I think 45 cm is still good enough and be MP style as well.

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    Combiners are partsformers, the individual bots partsforms to become the gestalt... But pantsforming is a no no for me, that’s the most turn off, non MP feature a MP combiner could have.
     
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    I think combiners should be actual combinations, shocking I know, not big robots wearing vehicles that are utterly unnecessary. One of them, I think it's the XTB, one is fully functional without a single Stunitcon installed, which, in my opinion, is pretty embarrassing.
     
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    That's all of the 3rd party G1 toon Menasors. You don't need any but the trailer.
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    At least the Zeta Combiners still require you to have the full team for a combiner for the 50cm combiner, otherwise the partsforming section just gives you thighs and/or the front of their abs, since the center bot makes up the center and back of the chest.
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    And I'm all for pantsformers, but the toon Menasor situation is a bit too much "partsforming" for me.
     
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    Zeta's Superion doesn't need Silverbolt for the combination and their other "combiners" still need a lot of help from kibble to look decent.

    Radiatron, on the other hand is a BIG improvement compared to their older stuff, very IMPRESSIVE. I hope MP Raiden is as good or even better than Zeta's.
     
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    Will that's still only 1 of their 4 combiners that you don't need the entire team, and that one you still need 4/5 for a combiner, so I think that's still pretty good since 3 of them use a partsforming part.
    And the only reason Radiatron isn't using the pants is because they're a six combiner team and (presumably) unlike Takara, the bot modes wont scale properly in individual mode, as they're all MP Megatron height inorder to get the 50cm combiner.

    And comparing Moonstar to Takara , all Takara has to do is for it to be stable and they will probably win for most people due to simply having better materials, presumably better articulation, and would scale more with anymore official offerings and the Titan Combiners since they're stand-ins for Takara since CW Devastator was originally conceived for MP before being simplified to Generations.
     
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    If you can design a cartoon accurate mp scale menasor without doing it, I'd love to see it. And will purchase instantly
     
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    Maybe Ocular Max can do it.
     
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    I know they said that they toyed with the idea, but if they were ever going to do one it would be either based on the toy/ox design or a new G1 inspired design since they're going for the all-in-one gimmick which luckily for them may almost be official combiner height assuming Raiden is CW Devastator height.
     
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    Which would make it a non purchase for me as it'll be stylized, I'm loving their bruticus and defensor, but I'll stick with xtb for my menasor until someone can pull it off. Right now, it's the most all in one of the options as it doesn't have either an extra trailer or loose parts like ft, or an animation error of a trailer like dx9
     
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    I agree man. I simply have a hard time thinking TT will ever do it like that.
     
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    These make me want to die. I don't even like toon Menasor with good engineering.
     
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    Pants-forming?
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    That's how he combined with his trailer, so it's ok.