Transformers Prime Episodes 1 and 2 - Darkness Rising Parts 1 and 2 Discussion

Discussion in 'Transformers Cyberverse and Cartoon Discussion' started by Sol Fury, Nov 26, 2010.

  1. OptimusSolo

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    That may have been my favorite line so far of the show! AWESOME
     
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    Looks like Cliffjumper...was just a red shirt.


    Starscream is pretty cool; reminds me of Beast Wars Tarantulas, both in voice and creepiness. Soundwave is very sinister; the silence and the facelessness really work for him (though I hope to hear him talk, and by the vocoded Arcee message, he'll probably sound G1-esque). Prime's pretty cool, too, as always my favorite Autobot. It's also great to hear the original Prime and Megatron voices in the same show again.
    This was a good intro to the series, and hopefully the good quality continues.
     
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    Hey now! Just 'cuz he's dead don't mean he's not apart of the cause anymore! CJ may be gone, but he's still 100% Autobot, Dude.

    After everything he went through to get thoroughly dead it probably would.
     
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    Why is everyone surprised by that Fight Club reference?
     
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    I think it's odd they cast the Rock for a role with so few lines. Granted, the character is emotionally important to the rest of the story, but I just think that it seems odd they would cast him for such a, speaking only in terms of screen time, small role.

    I don't want to add to the "Cliffjumper" is still alive/will be resurrected stuff (but we didn't see the final fate of his corpse, and in most popular fiction, no body=not dead) I just find it odd is all. I would have figured he would have been killed off at the end of the 5th episode at the earliest.
     
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    I am not surprised at all really, just liked that it was in there!
     
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    Mine too, as my signature probably tells by now too :D 
     
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    'Cause it's not one of the things I'd expect a TF show to reference. I'm used to more sci-fi references like Star Wars, Star Trek and all that crap. That's just me, though, I'm sure that other people have better excuses.
     
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    Not Cardasian, the Vorta Weyoun. Weyoun - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Indeed. As I suspected and posted several times, there was no way this could tie into WFC (either DS or the premium versions), nor the Exodus novel, and it does not. There are some distinct nods, but it is not a continuation.



    Your refusal to understand the concept or come to terms with Cliffjumpers termination was amusing. Given your clear instability, I can forgive the listing Trailbreaker. However, you listed Cosmos. You are no longer amusing.

    Cosmos, who in the various continuities:
    • Has perhaps the highest on-screen/page kill count in a single shot, with his reign of death through Darkmount to rescue Blaster
    • Destroyed the Insecticon Horde
    • Saved all of the Autobots, including once by towing every Autobot from the sun back to Earth.
    • Saved most of the Autobots by redirecting a Nuclear Missle.
    • Killed Unicron. Without the Matrix. Without any other Autobot backing him up.

    Not even Hasbro is foolish enough to do something like that to Cosmos. :tongue: 



    :lolol 


    As to my own thoughts. I regret to say I'm currently Meh. It's got a long way to go to win me over, but I'm just as far from giving up on it.

    Pro:
    • The Eradicons aren't red shirts. While they'll never survive like a named character, they seem surprisingly decent at holding their own.
    • The scene where Starscream dropped the bomb, jumped, then transformed to fly off was neat.
    • Speaking of Starscream, he's not a cardboard cutout character who's stuck on backstabber. Nor is he a high pitched whiny bitch. Clearly he's a frontrunner Starscream.
    • The plot wasn't corny.
    • Jack and Raf weren't annoying
    • Jeffery Combs is awesome, as I knew he would be.

    Con
    • Not sold on Welker. He seemed inconsistant, sometimes sounding like G1 Megatron and sometimes like the CEO from Animaniacs.
    • Speaking of Megatron, it seems we're getting a take on the Premium WFC Megatron moreso then the either the DS or the novel version, which is a huge shame. He was by far my least favorite take on him. The plunge of the Dark Energon is my biggest strike against both this version and the Premium WFC version. In the DS Megs puts the project under Soundwave, using Kaon Prison as his testing grounds with 11 failures before he comes up with a successful Dark Energon supersoldier.
    • Optimus is boring. His character is bland and he sounds tired.
    • Not sold on Bulkheads voice. For his great range, I'm tired of that "god voice".
    • Arcee is wildly inconsistant. Is she a tough soldier, the lone wolf mourning the loss of her close friend, the big sister to Jack? I'm not saying that she can't be a textured character, but she seems to shift personality a lot and very quickly every time.
    • They're coming dangerously close to being "Look, I'm dark and mature! See!" rather than just being it; or as I call it Torchwood syndrome.
    • I also don't care much for the fight choreography. For all it's frenetic action, it doesn't map well, there are a lot of occurances of what seems to be everyone else is just standing around if the camera isn't on them.

    I really don't want to be a Johnator (or others) of Prime, but I'm also having a hard time with the aesthetic. I really don't like that broken movie look (or the sword and gun hands) and oddly enough, it's Prime and Arcee that bug me the most so far. I also can't help but think that Megatrons face reminds me of a werewolf. It would be nice is over time the look grew on me, like Animated, but I'm not sure it will.
     
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    Darby: "Ugh, it's Saturday!"

    Arcee: "You can watch cartoons back at base with Bumblebee."

    Darby: "Cartoons? I'm sixteen!"

    Hilarious exchange, poking fun at folks like us.
     
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    Yeah I liked that interchange too!!
     
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    Comments part 2:


    Bumblebee's voice annoys me. I wish he would talk normal or do radio talk, but this voice will continue to aggravate me.

    The music is very good; reminiscent of Jablonsky's movie scores.

    Humans aren't as big a negative as I anticipated...yet.

    Fowler makes for a good Fanzone of this universe.

    The Eradicons could very easily become boring; TFA managed to keep Autobot/Decepticon interactions interesting with a core group of unique characters, and I hope this series doesn't use Eradicons as "filler" for all of the combat. I hope we see more Decepticons...hopefully a TF Prime rendition of Lockdown :p 

    Ratchet's "Bulkhead, I needed that!" was great.
     
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    I'm not sixteen anymore, so I can watch cartoons again :p  :D 
     
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    havent seen it yet,i remember with tf animated there was a torrent every week....is there a possibility for us who are outside the U.S. to download it?
     
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    I'd rather wait until the 29th for the high quality DL. It probably won't have the big obnoxious "TRANSFORMERS PRIME IS COMING ZOMG" text in the bottom corner then.
     
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    I'm still thrilled about the fact the show made me love it by these two episodes, although I hate the designs. *gg*
     
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    Pretty cool. Nice and dark, right off the bat. It lacks the sharper wit of Animated, making some of the humour come off as awkward, for me, but the action is good, and i already like the bots and cons. Still, it's gonna take time to grow on me.
     
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    All i can say is i loved everything about it, i could care less if some things are different, i hate the same old thing over and over in a cartoon series so when things like this come along that give something new and not just a cookie cutter version of something we already had , i love it. Cant wait for the next episodes :) 
     
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    Good stuff.... Very pleasantly surprised. I halfway expected to be disappointed, but it's really good. I just hope over time, they'll introduce more new characters...
     
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    Finally got to watch it as I missed it earlier. My hubby recorded it for me (without my even asking… I love that man lol). My first impressions (yeah, it's long, my bad)…

    I’m liking it so far. I’m not amazed right off the bat as I was with Animated, but it’s only two episodes in, and I’m really looking forward to how the series progresses. Arcee = WIN, and quite frankly this is the best incarnation of Arcee yet. Ratchet, I can already tell he will be one of my favorites in this series. “Bulkhead, I NEEDED that!!” :lol  Cranky old robot with a knack of making sarcastic jokes and deadpan comments = win (and I loved Animated Ratchet, so this might be why I love this representation of Ratchet). Bulkhead is interesting. I love Animated Bulkhead, and Prime Bulkhead is clearly a more “serious” representation. I’m a little worried about how “serious” they’re going to make him but the “traffic” deadpan comment was funny. I like his character so far, and I’m curious how they’re going to develop his character.

    Optimus is typical Prime so far, and honestly I wasn’t as impressed with him as I was the other characters – he’s classic Prime (which I’m glad for), but I’d like to see him given individual personality quirks that work with his character but aren’t so obviously Movieverse or G1. He just seems… generic at this point. But Cullen = win, so it’s not that big a deal. Bumblebee is adorable, no complaints there (although I do hope he actually speaks at some point). Zombiejumper was a pleasant surprise. I’m not entirely happy about him potentially (okay, let’s face it, he was) killed off so early in the series, as I was really looking forward to more than two minutes of Cliffjumper, but I’ll survive. Honestly, his death is clearly important to the psychology of the other characters (Arcee), so I’m not that mad about him being killed off. And the Rock voicing Cliffjumper? Effing awesome.

    As for the Cons, I’m loving Screamer and Megs. For one, the voices are NOT screechingly annoying, which is a definite good thing (yeah, I’m looking at you, G1, and Movieverse Screamer). Welker’s Megatron voice for this one is perfect – it’s creepy, and not uproariously funny and ridiculous like I found it to be in G1. For two, Screamer’s design is fantastic (am I the only one who noticed the obvious homage to his G1 colors with his head design?), and I like Megatron’s design as well. To me, it’s a mixture of G1 colors and Movieverse design and I think it was pulled off quite well. The whole Unicron thing and Dark Energon? AWESOME. Soundwave; I’d like to hear his voice, and I’m REALLY hoping he doesn’t just repeat transmissions the whole series, but so far I like him. Megatron and the Dark Energon is interesting, and although I immediately thought “Galvatron” when that happened, I find myself hoping that’s not the case. You don’t just bring in Megatron and then make him Galvatron… it seems… sloppy? Not sure that’s the right word, but eh.

    The Eradicons are cool (and I was pleasantly surprised they could actually fight well) and the differing designs are sweet, but I do want more “real” Decepticon characters. The nods to WFC and other continuities was something that I wasn’t sure would occur before the series premiered, and I am really hoping they continue that. It was nice to see the nods (as I particularly loved how Animated did it, so I hope it continues), and I’m loving the humor. The Robot Fight Club thing even got the hubby laughing, and considering he grudgingly deals with my TF obsession, that’s an accomplishment lol.

    As for the humans, I like them. Jack strikes me as the “Sam” of this series, although definitely not as geeky, and considering there are two other human “kid” characters who aren’t overly annoying, I’m not going to complain about his characterization. He’s a typical 16 year old dorky kid to me, and he reminds me of my little brother when he was that age lol. Raph strikes me as the “genius” of the kids, and him schooling Ratchet on human technology was hysterical – but the kid is also down to earth, it seems, and that’s a good thing. And yeah, Ratchet’s supposed to know quite a bit as he’s the superior alien robot and all, but I don’t see the issue with Ratchet not knowing EVERYTHING about “backwater human technology”. Ratchet’s character in TF: Prime seems, so far, to hate or at least have a large disdain of human technology, so it doesn’t surprise me that he doesn’t know how to fix everything when the human tech has errors (I was thinking several viruses when I watched that scene), as the tech is “beneath” him. Then again, that’s just my interpretation. I’m interested to see how they work in Raph’s obvious intelligence with Ratchet’s disdain of human technology further on, if they do. And I also want an explanation on how the heck he can understand ‘Bee.

    Miko is like my annoying and hyper little teenage sister – and I say that lovingly. She made me laugh, because I know how my sister acts, how most teenage girls act… and I was once a teenage girl, so Miko brought back memories how absolutely annoying and “OMG SQUEEEE!” I was. :lol  Fowler seems like an ass, but I’ll give him time. The fact that he’s voiced by Ernie Hudson got points from the hubby (“That’s what’s-his-face from Ghostbusters!!” Yes dear lol). Overall, I’m happy with the human characters. Since we’re only two episodes in, my opinion might change on them, but so far I think the three kids balance each other out quite well, and I’m on a “wait and see” with Fowler’s character.

    The CGI is done nicely, and I’m impressed. It could use some more detail in certain scenes, but they really did a nice job. The desert scenes reminded me of Monument Valley and the entire Northern half of Arizona, and I really have to say that they got the CGI of that area down tight, especially with the scarcity of plants, the rocks, the beautiful scenery, and the reds of the soils (and yes, I know it was supposed to be Nevada in Prime, but it reminds me of Arizona and Utah’s landscapes more). The city scenes were nicely done, and I really don’t have many complaints. Could they have used more detail in a few scenes? Yes, but I feel that it works fine on what they presented so far in these two episodes, and I’m glad that they didn’t clutter the scenes with too much detail. The action was great, though I do feel that the transformation scenes are a little “rushed”. As for the music = total WIN. Reminded me of Steve Jablonsky’s scores for TF1 and ROTF, which I adore.

    Overall, I really have to say that I’m pleasantly surprised with TF: Prime. I’m excited for how this series plays out, and whatever little quibbles I might have doesn’t really matter at this point as it is so early in. I’m quite pleased with what I have seen so far. And I’m so excited that there’s another TF series on TV again. I’m happy, and can’t wait for Wednesday! :) 

    As for the “5 episodes only” thing, I will say that my husband told me that our DVR showed that it was only going to record five episodes (he set it earlier, as I said, to record the entire series). I checked it out myself right after I watched the episodes, and indeed, it’s only set to record the “mini-series” and there’s nothing about any other episodes. I’m not entirely sure why, but considering it’s already been confirmed that there will be an entire season, if not more, I’m not overly concerned. I’m guessing it’s just an error with our DVR and perhaps the Hub scheduling. *shrugs*