Transformers Haslab Victory Saber Revealed! Crowdfunding Campaign Live!

Discussion in 'Transformers News and Rumors' started by Smokie, Aug 27, 2021.

  1. sikkusushotto

    sikkusushotto Well-Known Member

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    I've often criticized Hasbro reveals, saying how we don't need to see anyone's faces, just point the camera at the toy and do what hundreds of youtube toy reviewers do every day and give us a clear 1080p look at the toy. This time Hasbro delivers. A big thank you to Evan. I'm really happy that he went through all the transformations and articulation. I hope that this will set the standard moving forwards for Hasbro reveals and updates.

    On the toy itself:

    + Star Saber looks fantastic
    + Love the sword orientation options
    + Great articulation
    + Excellent use of the shield in all modes
    + Much better V-Star to Victory Leo connection, that looks really solid
    + Victory Leo's transformation is spot on
    + Like the Victory Leo leg-to-wing tabs
    + Love the functionality and options with all the weapons on both bots

    o Victory Leo's wings could be a little bit bigger
    o Not a huge fan of the bent wings on the back of the V-Star
    o The Saber jet to V-Star connection in vehicle mode is one of the weakpoints of both the G1 and MP versions and it looks to be a similar situation with the Haslab
    o Not really sure what to think yet with the V-Star transformation, some new ideas but it doesn't seem that smooth

    - Don't like the proportions on the Saber robot and jet at all, he looks way too squat in both modes, arms too thin, shins too big
    - Don't like the hollowness on Victory Leo
    - Don't like the completely hollow Saber forearms with a see-through 5mm hole
    - Not a fan of the jet nose to blade length proportions
    - Not a fan of the jet nose peg hole position on Saber's shoulder

    Overall I'm really excited for this.

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    Agreed with SS86 Grimlock. In the case of SS86 Hot Rod however, they clearly learned the wrong lessons, what with the fake chest and squeezing a voyager-level transformation into a deluxe size.

    In the case of Primes, I don't think they learned enough.

    MP-24 prices have been quite steady and in some cases they've even fallen. Check Japanese websites.

    He's close but there are many things that a 2.0 version could improve.
     
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  2. JJJ

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    So, watching the video... "hot-stamp foil" for the chest detail (I recall a bit of back and forth many months ago about whether or not there were sculpted details there - seems now there won't be). What's that? Sounds like a cross between a tampo and vacuum metallising. Are there any examples in current lines of this method? Is this something Hasbro ought to be using more often? Or is it being used here because of the bigger budget?
     
  3. Bravemaximike

    Bravemaximike Road Warrior

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    I like it as a fun function, but found it makes holding stuff just a tad too wiggly….
    But I’m cool with it being on Star Saber.
    After all, I LOVE siege Jetfire.

    I’ve found of all the generations, MP or 3p offerings out there, the best and most sturdy way of having moveable fingers and retain amazing grip is the design MakeToys uses (the way it slots in).
    But I’ll take this nifty Jetfire-esque gimmick.
    Just hope that sword isn’t too wiggly in Star Saber’s hands as a result.
     
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  4. protostar8

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    Wow, just wow. People like you really amaze me. You shouldn't just excuse Hasbro's design team on this one. This isn't a $20 or even $40 toy. It's $180. That's not cheap. Plus with the amount of money it made they could easily afford some better engineering. Hasbro is just being super greedy about this feature. It would have been easy to just copy a 3P company who does it better cheaper. That's the really sad part, they do it better cheaper. Hasbro made JUST SHORT of $5 million on this. Let's be super conservative and say that molds plus plastic costs plus shipping wound up being $3 million (no way it's near that high, but again just being conservative). That's still well over $1.5 million in profit. For that they could easily hire a few engineers to work on this (b/c it's not taking a toy maker more than a few months to make this). So no, you can't just cut them a break b/c it's $180 instead of $200. They are cheating on articulation plain and simple for that pose. The joint looks horrible and is poorly engineered. Hasbro has the funds and SHOULD have the most skilled toy engineers on the market but they clearly don't. Why? Greed. Flat out greed. They must not pay well enough b/c otherwise these 3P designers would go work for them. I'm sure Hasbro has explored that option and decided their current teams are "good enough" for what they pay them.
     
  5. Oniconvoy

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    I finally had a chance to sit down and watch the video. My basic take away is that this is a deeply satisfying figure in almost every way. Fantastic shooting location to hear all of those ratchets and tabs really click. A lot of thought has been put into all of the options for weapon storage. Great to see multiple connection points for the various sections to maximize stability. Amazing articulation, which is key for the character.

    Really looking forward to the next update!
     
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  6. Multra Agnus

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    Is there a way to still order one of these from Hasbro??
     
  7. Foster

    Foster Haslab Victory Saber Backer #3 Veteran

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    No.
     
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  8. Skreeonk

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    I'm very glad I decided to back this. I really struggled with justifying getting this, until someone on here mentioned how excited there kid was about it, & I was like "duh, this is a giant toy, probably one of the biggest my kids will ever see in this household, this will blow their minds!" Still haven't shown them or told them about it, think I'll just let it show up and be a complete surprise!
     
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  9. Zawicki

    Zawicki Wanna bewitch you in the moonlight

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    Fire Dagwon and Gaogaigar are such great designs. It'd be nice to get an SoC of Dagwon one day.
    I see what you're saying. Star Saber definitely has some gundam influence but he has a lot more in common with the Super Robot look.
     
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  10. PoweredConvoy

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    I'm guessing it's what we consider chrome or vac metal, except not the whole piece but just part of it.

    Similar to how they did the gold chrome parts on MP Star Saber.
     
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  11. nelix510

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    Not impressed so far after watching the video review of the prototype. Not going to rant positives / negatives.
     
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    I think this will be a highlight of the CHUG line and it looks like a really fun cool toy. I had the MP but eventually sold it as the character does absolutely nothing for me. Glad the backers are satisfied with their purchases, and everyone else that didn't we get to live vicariously through you.
     
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  13. Prime of Shadows

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    That’s exactly what it is. You can’t vacuum metallize only that one surface on a larger piece of plastic, so they take the same foil material and heat bond it with a stamp instead.
     
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    Nope. It was a limited-time-only thing. Only choice is after-market prices. You can also check stores like the Big Bad Toy Store or Show.Z for stock. Chances are, orders for this figure were made by some of these places because they want to sell a few.

    I do wonder if there's a chance for a 3rd party KO.
     
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    KO for $100-130, i would buy it.
     
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    Unless it’s just not shown in this new update didn’t he come with 2 micro masters as well or did we not meet that goal?
     
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    Just not shown I guess , we met all the goals if memory didn’t fail me
     
  18. geekatron prime

    geekatron prime king of the hullabaloo!

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    They didn't come with this sample for some reason. Evan states that they should have samples of the micros next update.
     
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  19. Foster

    Foster Haslab Victory Saber Backer #3 Veteran

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    Right - Evan said that since they were existing molds they weren't included in this EP1 sample.
     
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    I will have a spare too. Also it's really amusing the started the video with a rendition of the Victory end credit music..lol.
     
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