Transformers Haslab Victory Saber Revealed! Crowdfunding Campaign Live!

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  1. PlanckEpoch

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    Right. So just another insane fan.

    Serves me right for trying to have good faith discussions with insane people.
     
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  2. Gumblor Gimbles

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    There is no feasible way that hasbro is producing the rancor for $350- that $350 includes the tiers. So if the tiers are awful, people absolutely care.

    Plus, what do you mean "short time"? It's been at least 2 years since haslab Unicron and it's tiers.
     
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    Well of course they aren’t producing the rancor for $350, it is obviously way less than that. They still are going to make a profit on it after all. Plus the smaller quantities produced of a figure results in a higher relative cost of production. This is why you see discounts on bulk orders of anything; the more you make of something at one time, the less it costs to do so. That is they add the stretch tiers to compensate the decrease in cost by adding more value to the product instead of reducing the price. Realistically Hasbro could offer no stretch tiers and just take the extra profit without offering anything to the consumer.
     
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    Thanks for shining more light on how it works, I knew some of that from business studies but not all of it. Sorry if it seemed like I was stating the obvious, it's just that other members seem to think that the extra tiers are hasbro being nice, and aren't factored into the price.
     
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    They're factored in, absolutely. But they're factored in only once the higher minimum orders are met.
     
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    Transformers Victory Saber HasLab Backer Update: Onward to Victory! – Hasbro Pulse

    We just got our first production update.

    Transformers Victory Saber HasLab Backer Update: Onward to Victory!

    Let’s say go, Victory Saber HasLab backers! Check out some behind-the-scenes-photos of the Victory Saber HasLab! The Transformers Hasbro and Takara Tomy designers use these mold plans to know exactly the color and type of plastic each piece will be made with.

    In the photos you can see the V-Shield, V-Lock Cannon, and the Translucent Autobot display stand. Can you spot the pieces of the Brain of Courage Brainmaster figure? Here’s a hint there are 5 pieces. Try to find them in molds, 3, 4, 13, and 18. Can you find them all?

    Stay tuned for more HasLab backer updates as we take you through the development process on this awesome item.

    Until next time, Let’s Say Go!

    Victory Saber HasLab Backer Update Onward to Victory-1.jpg Victory Saber HasLab Backer Update Onward to Victory-2.jpg Victory Saber HasLab Backer Update Onward to Victory-3.jpg Victory Saber HasLab Backer Update Onward to Victory-4.jpg
     
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    FIRST UPDATE HAS BEEN EMAILED!
     
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    Holy crap! VS update in the VS thread!
     
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    Does this mean the sword blade is going to be made of transparent plastic and just painted over? I would be a bit worried that the base of the blade could break by repeatedly being inserted into and removed from the hilt.
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    These are actually a great example to offer when someone says, “Why don’t they just remake X.”
    It really shows off how items are gang molded on specific sprues and they can’t just reproduce a single piece without running the whole sprue.
     
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    I've shared it twice so I'll do it again. SC may not be everyone's cup of tea and he's definitely a self promoter (which I have no problem with), but he still offers good insights on how the toy business works.

    In short, at low production runs, a disproportionate amount of the cost is taken up by the fixed costs like rent. As the production run increases, a greater and greater percentage moves towards variable cost (like the amount of plastic needed) but also towards profit. As the HasLab projects add more figures, the per unit cost of the toy goes down and the profit goes up, which gives Hasbro more room to add bonus items. In order to get the kind of expensive, completely new tooling needed for a figure (like Morg for Galactus), you need a lot of preorders. To get Morg. Hasbro had to crack 20,000 backers (on its way to 30,000) for a $400 toy.

     
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    I am. "This doesn't make sense for us financially" is a much more honest answer than "We can't do it".
     
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    That was quick. Didnt expect any updates for at least another month or so. Maybe because it's such a smaller figure than Unicron. They were able to plan the tooling setup faster.
     
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    Not the hot updated I was expecting when I saw the link, but something is something.
     
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    For sure. Also a great visual explanation on why we wind up with things like painted spoilers for Rodimus. If that’s the only part in one of those trays, it gets chucked in with another color to save money
     
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    I'm not against painting and assembling this thing by myself... but could I get a discount if that's the case LOL
     
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    Yep. Especially when each of these molds can easily cost anywhere in the 50k-100k range. It's why a lot of third party companies (and Hasbro with Scorponok) try to mirror limbs and use screw covers to hide this. It's easily the most expensive part of the production process.
     
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