Transformers Haslab Victory Saber Revealed! Crowdfunding Campaign Live!

Discussion in 'Transformers News and Rumors' started by Smokie, Aug 27, 2021.

  1. HotRodDidNothingWrong

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    Still not as bad as the Kingdom Galvatron thread though. Remember the shitshow that was the camera lense distortion debate.
     
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  2. G.B. Blackrock

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    I think we can all agree that most of the time, when people buy items to resell, it fits both of the categories I cited (that is "making money for little effort," if you'll excuse my paraphrase of your words, and "makes it hard for people to get"). I'm trying to make the point that only the first of those applies to Victory Saber, and trying to encourage people to suss out which of those two concerns (certainly, yes, both can coexist) is the primary concern for you.

    If it's the first ("making money for little effort"), I'm not going to argue with you that it shouldn't be (not in this forum, at least. If we had something more appropriate for politics or economic theory, we could have some fun. But it's not appropriate here).

    But if it's the second ("makes it hard for people to get"), you can at least rest easy that it doesn't apply in the case of Victory Saber, even if it usually does apply elsewhere.
     
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    :thumb  And Good Guys always sell better!:ev: 
     
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    So uh, hey, what do we think the final tier will be?
     
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    As someone who uses Kickstarter quite a bit... I still can't get my head around the Haslab platform.

    They keep saying number of backers instead of money raised, so if I back for 2 that doesn't help the project any more than someone else backing for 1?

    As always in these scenarios, most backers come in the first and last 48hrs. Occasional bumps with news like this that reminds people of the campaign. Only difference here is that it's a closed platform and we don't know when Hasbro add the international partner numbers.
     
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    It's actually numbers sold, not number of backers. So if you buy 5, you add 5 to the counter.
     
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  8. Rodimus Prime

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    Because the rest of it is pointless. People who hate scalping don't hate it because they're jealous.
     
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    What I'd want as stretch goals:
    RED figure version of the two bots
    User Marvel Legends/Star Wards Black/GI Joe parts to make Jan Minakaze
    Lights/Sounds packs in some way
    Some kind of wacky Victory themed remolds, like I dunno... SS86 Blur to Blue Bacchus dragster or Trailbreaker to Tackle or something. Or hell, repaintmolds of the Siege Weaponizers to various Multiforce members. Something goofy, exciting, exclusive and not super vital.

    What I got
    Blast effects
    Stand
     
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    Try getting a ps5 for almost a year when most online sites sell out within seconds due to scalpers and their bots. Especially with stock so low due to the ongoing chip shortage. You will see why people have a disdain for them.
     
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    Maybe a deluxe figure of another Victory character? Aside from this, I got nothing.
     
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    I said this on Facebok, I feel like this is insulting.  They should have made the bonus teirs get us Braver Blacker and Laster.  
     
  13. mx-01 archon

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    That's a completely unrealistic pipe-dream.

    Again, it's easy for the Marvel HasLabs to get whole extra figures out of the deal because in reality, all they need to do is tool 2-3 extra parts or so. Not R&D a whole new toy. Might even be possible to throw the new parts onto one of the molds with the Sentinel parts themselves, in which case, virtually zero extra tooling costs are incurred.

    Each newly-tooled TF character is another ~$500K investment, by comparison. Victory Saber's minimum target budget is only $2M, so...
     
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    A free flight stand is “insulting?” Get over yourself.
     
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    They can do some remolds or repaints of existing characters. Like I said above, they could repaint Weaponisers into Mutliforce members
    They could repurpose some ML/SWB/GIJoe figures into human characters like Jan. Into the SpiderVerse Miles Morales already has a "young teen wearing hoody" upper body for example.
    If they expand out of Victory in Zone or Masterforce characters the options literally explode.
     
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    I think we need to re-assess the potential add-ins here. HasTak is simply aiming to create the best Generations-styled Victory Saber they possibly can, while everybody has instead been going hog-wild, and brainstorming/pipe-dreaming about how this is going to be a Generations Victory "starter pack" instead.
     
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    Technically yes, that would be scalping. While Sony is currently producing the PS5, stock of the PS5 is still finite. Victory Saber does not currently have an uppder limit on his stock, ordering more only increases the supply. That's the difference. Everyone that wants one can order a Victory Saber and get it.
     
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    If you are seriously in this for the free stuff I would ask you to rethink your priorities.

    I got Unicron, I spent X and expected to get X. I backed this project and expect to get the characters promised when it goes through. I am not looking for what extra bells they are adding, it is nice they are doing it to be sure but the deal was we need 11k or better to make getting these figures made and out the door,. They don't have to add anything else, so please get over your entitlement mentality. The company owes us nothing above what they promised they would deliver if it's backed.
     
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  19. Matrixbeast

    Matrixbeast Here comes a thought

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    How dare they choose to release a stand as a stretch goal? It should've been a completely new figure of God Ginrai to represent his death in Victory!
     
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    No, people are thinking of ways to attract fence sitters enough to the project to actually hit these goals. I guarantee that no fence sitter suddenly saw a flight stand and whipped out their credit card. But something cool or "exclusive"? They'll slap it down.

    If you want to stay within the Victory Saber sphere... there's merch stuff they could indulge in. I don't like them, but a FigPin. Or enamel pins in general. Those acrylic stand desk display things that are quite popular in Japan. Reissue the old Heroes of Cybertron/SCF figurines, maybe with a commemorative base.

    A stand shows a massive lack of creativity and honestly is something that should have been standard on a premium product like this.