Transformers Cinematic Universe Is Over, Current Movie Series To Be Rebooted

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  1. Deadend

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    Well to be fair, in that first movie, Starscream was speaking Cybertronian only, and avoided english until the end. He was incognito mode so to speak. It wasn't until towards where he wanted humans to understand him that he started being more direct in that regard with a language they could understand. Before then, we were kind of annoying gnats to him that he was hiding from until he could figure out where Megatron was. Then he got a little more banter and scary personality stuff in the sequels. But the decepticon side didn't really get a lot of chance for development. Only some quick scenes. Mostly the Autobots got the personality focus some in their interactions.



    We should also keep in mind that Hasbro doesn't throw designs or lore away anymore. They find ways to integrate it. So the movie designs are likely to evolve, but elements of them are likely to stay too.

    We will not get a direct G1 panel by panel CG versions, or even Masterpiece or Alternators to the big screen in live action form.

    At most, we'll get redesigns that are mildly different from Bay-verse, but still carry on more classic aspects to separate them, and even that we will not see for a while. The reboot itself will not take hold until later. They'll milk the current movies for a bit, as well as Bumblebee's current iconic look.

    Then later, when the timing feels right, they'll start to build a new look that probably better blends the aesthetic of Movie to G1 and other areas of the lore. Slightly organic metal but also still recognizable, and still not liquidized metal faces like beast wars. So we may see a more pronounced megatron helmet, or Bumblebee's helmet, but also will still carry hues of bay-verse design elements in the face and eyes. Probably more along the lines of Barricade in TLK, but then also still some more varied alien designs too, and diversity of characters.

    Though this does kind of make me hope this time they use Arcee's movie 1 concept that got tossed aside. Kind of really grown on that design.
    If Hasbro is going to fully reboot, they will fully reboot later and plan it out more this time and plot it out. So this time it is more cohesive, and better character driven without worries about stuff getting axed because of various director creative decisions that nixed plans or had to be worked around. The main thing that was a problem with the first 4 movies is that they were kind of thrown together and had random elements changed on the fly with no direct cohesive vision. It was a lot of random changes for random whims and from audience reactions, with very little overall plan until about TLK to Bumblebee and probably what would have been TF6, and what may still be in the origin animated feature that's still in the works too.

    A new director and reboot doesn't mean they'll get rid of the artists they've been using, and are likely to keep many of them on board, as well as whatever other assets might be usable still.
    Or all this talk of reboot could be premature and a form of marketing itself to get people talking about Transformers, and it turns out they pull something else as in a reboot in how it's handled. Though with the 50th anniversary of G1 roughly 16 years away and the gestation period for some media projects to build to something like that, who knows.

    Right now it's hype speak. Wait and see the final products and trailers or what news comes forward. It's a curious move in general, but with much of the marvel material coming and hasbro profiting from that, and the action man movie coming up, the still left 2 transformers features, and the GI Joe movie coming up, I think Hasbro as a corporate entity is fine. Especially with the news of them taking over the power rangers toy license with who knows what major announcements tied to that that have yet to be made yet too. All we know there for certain is that they're doing the Kyu conversion toys.

    As timing goes, this might be the perfect time to let Transformers movies rest for a minute to let the hype build back up for a new outing later. Especially since 2 films are already in the works still, and a new series is on the way. Maybe it's time to let the series breathe for a minute and catch its breath. Heaven knows my wallet needs some rest from how much Hasbro has been pulling out of it non-stop, and looks to keep pulling out of it without me complaining yet.
     
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    Ok, TLK was a franchise interest killer for me and it turns out its literal franchise killer. Shame that it happens 7 years too late. Anyways, waiting for G1 on big screen or not interested.
     
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    The entire film stylized. Not just the cybertronians. There's alwaus a way to make a style work....
     
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    Congratulations, TransFormers fans - you have done it. Victory is here, and it is needed. Take time today to celebrate that a nightmare is over. Wallets have spoken, as I promised they would.

    Make sure Bumblebee goes down as it should and we bury this garbage just as deep as they buried everything we loved about TF. They are only now learning their lesson, it's too late for this film as we have already seen anyway. More of the same, more of our shame.

    Celebrations aside, this is just phase one. We got rid of the crude, crass, misogynistic, brainlessly violent robot films masquerading as TF films. Now we want to try to make sure what comes next is not only better, but much better. Almost every decision they made needs overhauled. When you see Hasbro at a convention, push them hard on this. We want TRANSFORMERS on film - period. Otherwise, they are wasting their time. And we want this site behind the fans - not the corporate propaganda! It didn't work.

    Because we need to push. Hasbro having more control doesn't necessarily equal good things - they have yet to make any good movies. We all know the challenges they bring - so be vocal. We want to be able to recognize the things we have loved forever. We want to get goosebumps when we see Optimus because we know it's him, not something that looks like Rodimus Prime mixed with Overload. We know that Crosshairs is a blue and red off-road vehicle, not a green Corvette. We know if you want a Corvette, it's Tracks you need to include and certainly not Sideswipe. We know that Shockwave and Bumblebee have the ability to speak. We know that humans don't constantly take out Decepticons, otherwise why are the Autobots even around? We know that Optimus Prime does not take killing lightly, and certainly not the killing of humans. We know that Drift has more way more depth and backstory than a racial stereotype. We know that Ironhide is a red van, not a black truck. We know that TransFormers were not here for every major event in human history - a bizarre storyline that made less and less sense with each passing film. We know they don't seek an AllSpark - at least not until they pass on. They seek ENERGON!

    Here's to the future, with renewed optimism!
     
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    With Hasbro acquiring the rights to Power Rangers do you it might crossover with this new reboot maybe?
     
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    Oh my god we could have OFFICIAL TRANSFORMING DINOZORD COMBINER
     
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    In the reboot movies they should have characters like in the first half of the 86 Movie.
    The classic characters:

    Optimus prime
    Ironhide
    Hound
    Prowl
    Sunstreaker
    Sideswipe
    etc..

    But also introducing
    Ultra magnus
    Kup
    Hot Rod
    Blurr
    Springer
    Arcee

    And with some of these characters later do a spinoff movie of \"The Wreckers\"
    What do you guys think?
     
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  8. Rodimus Prime

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    Then leave, leave, leave.

    It's idiotic to assume that they will completely ditch the influence of the Bayformers designs in the new series. If I had to guess, it'll be a mix of mid-idw and Bayformers designs, or Bayformers with more classic face design. They will be changed to make it recognizable as a reboot , but this is like assuming that Disney's Wolverine will wear yellow spandex on the big screen.
     
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    For these guys who keep saying "I hate G1, I'm sick of it regurgitated everywhere" and want something "different", Why not just take the attitude to it's logical conclusion and get into a different franchise? It strikes me as being like a "Star Wars fan" who says "GODDAMN I'M SICK OF SEEING YODA AND R2-D2 AND LIGHTSABERS."
     
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    Exactly. There are a lot of movies where the stuff shown on screen looks cool, but when you see the actual costume in real life, it does not look that cool. That's what they need to do. I imagine something colorful.
     
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    Grimlock as a Dragonzord would be cool :D 
     
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    Yeah, good idea.

    Let’s all completely write off the first Transformers film we’re going to get with a competent director promising a completely different character-driven direction before we’ve even seen the movie. That will definitely bode well for the chances of future films, and the franchise in general...
     
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    This is shaping up to be a great Lunar New year

    And no, this isn't a G1 victory. This has nothing to do with G1.

    This is a victory of viewers over Hollywood's assumption that drek will sell regardless.

    Sure the Bayformers had some merits. But they were garbage movies, filled with shit characters, horrible plots, general stupidity, shameless endorsements, and a director who did not give a shit about the world he made.

    Look at how the same greedy corporate attitude is killing the DCEU, non Disney Marvel films, and even Star Wars.

    Viewers want quality entertainment. There's a place for fart jokes, racist humour, and flashy but pointless cgi fusterclucks, but a respectable scifi franchise is not it. If Transformers wants to become a long lasting film universe, it needs to stop being Bay's bitch.
     
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  14. Shizuka

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    How is it ironic that people want to see an unfinished series completed while not wanting more of a series that's been finished for 30 years? You can't compare sequels feeling the same to getting more of a product that ended decades ago because it's different.

    Anyway, maybe they'll retcon a voice for Bumblebee.
     
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    This would be interesting and a great visionary chance to bring in genuine comedic moments.

    I could envision a human character talking to the autobot alt mode while driving him after they got attacked and shot at.

    The human thought the autobot sustained injury so after a chase & they got to safety, she pulls over, leaps out the car while the cybertronian still complains and whines. She pops the trunk wide open to reveal the face of the cybertronian under the hood talking, maybe with some other body parts on the sides like the hands all squeezed and flexed inside.

    The human character asks “are you ok?”

    Then the cybertronian says in an awkward way “i’m Fine” in his transformed State, his eyeballs moving embarrassed. Then next scene.
     
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    If you don't count the Japanese follow-ups, the G1 cartoon doesn't have a proper ending either. "The Rebirth" was clearly the pilot for a Season 4 that never came to be.

    Which makes it even more ironic.
     
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    Didn't G1 continue without the comics? Regeneration 1 or something?
     
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    Regeneration 1 is a continuation of the Marvel Comics, which were a separate entity to the cartoon.
     
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    I really really hope in the reboot roughly get the last starscream design. That’s an awesome design.

    And if you couple it with these Optimus and megatron designs with a decent, solid and cohesive plot and story with the transformers being given more and fleshed out personality and character (like Transformers Prime Starscream), the rebooted series will be awesome.

    Like one of the posters here said, perhaps the rebooted first movie does not need to tell their origin story and go the way of the first episode of Transformers Prime where the Autobots already have a working relation with humans.

    But I also hope they retain the origins story of megatron and Optimus and the civil war from the aligned continuity post-writers room as the aligned continuity origins story is still more mature and sophisticated.

    The rebooted movie or series of movies needs to be where they’ll have no problems previewing it to a group of critics because they know it will be good and generate positive word-of-mouth.
     
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    God bless you sir

    *SALUTE*
     
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