Discussion in 'Transformers News and Rumors' started by SilverOptimus, Mar 6, 2019.
News Post: Transformers: Bumblebee To Receive The ReFrame Stamp
Michael Bay: Hey can you do a sexy pose?
Travis Knight: Everyone is equal.
I like to imagine this was just to spite Michael Bay and his kindergarten-level film-making "skill".
That's awesome. Transformers at the forefront of equality! Bring it!
I like to imagine a world where a movie is just good. Regardless of what sex stars in it. Many a Hollywood leading man and woman were just good at their craft. Forcing something down my throat for some made up sense of 'equality' is just bananas.
I'm good at my job and I'm a man. So what? I don't deserve special treatment or discrimination because of that fact.
Let my work do the talking.
This 'stamp' is unnecessary.
Participation Award, awesome.
Well that didnt take long.
This stamp is just acknowledging that a historically underrepresented group in a particular field is getting recognized in a movie through writing and whatnot. No one is saying this makes the movie good. It's not meant to say that if a man wrote it or starred in it, the movie would be bad. Everyone is capable of producing the same quality of content. There are no stamps for male writers and leads as because, well, male writers and leads are the norms. You are making a big deal out of a whole lot of nothing.
Yea, we all know that women are so excluded from American and western society in general, and in films specifically.
Gimmie a break. Women are not victims in America, nor are they a historically underrepresented group.
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The article straight up cites statistics which show that women are still underrepresented in the film industry. Which is what the award is about.
Well, this is TFW, so this can only end in tears. Might as well just lock the thread right away and save the moderating headache.
And yes, women and people of color have been underrepresented in the movie industry for a loooong time. Not just on the final product end as in actors but also (and mainly) on the production side. It’s a boy’s club despite the fact movies are in no way an industry that would/should warrant a male oriented workfield.
Super easy to claim it’s not a big deal when you’re a white dude...but it’s true. Not saying people should feel guilty or something, but maybe think about it before judging or throwing the ‘sjw’ pejorative out there.
Having said that tho...yeah, this basically IS a participation award as I don’t think this will actually change a single thing.
A quick heads up, before things get too carried away...
Can we please try and refrain from inflaming this thread with the kind of rhetoric that has plagued others throughout the forums?
This is a piece of Transformers-related news and should be viewed and discussed as such - it doesn’t need to be a clarion call for defenders on any ‘side’ of the wider debate around identity/gender politics etc.
Would really appreciate everyone’s support on keeping this thread peaceful and easy.
“The Geena Davis Institute investigated and discovered that in the film industry, only 8% of directors are women, coupled with 19% of producers and 13.6% of writers. Several other studies conducted by the institute concern additional issues regarding gender and media including gender disparity in media across several countries as well as the portrayal of gender in films specifically marketed to young girls and families.”
Just fyi, the gina davis institute also has the largest repository of data collected on gender in the film industry.
All of this information is available for free! On the internet!
I'm staying out of this.
Maybe most women just have different goals and interests hence the seemingly minor number, anyone here ever thought of that?
Nothing about against directors, producers, writers, cast and other crew who may happen to be female. I'm sure there are a few good talented directors and screenwriters out there who happen to be women, and there are definitely a lot of great actresses to count. But I somehow doubt there's a big evil global patriarchy, bent on domination over and keeping down all women in the world. Is there?
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