Transformers #8 (2019 -)

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  1. Issy543

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    This issue certainly has a lot of interesting moments that happened:

    • We got 7 pages worth of action, involving Cyclonus, Flamewar and Shadow Striker (based on Cyberverse)
    • Termagax has zero interest in the rallies, because she chooses not to care about them
    • This has lead to Megatron believing that they are safe from here
    • Bumblebee has been informed by Elita-1 to personally escort Megatron
    • Quake has disappeared
    • Cyclonus ends up visiting Prowl and Chromia, and informs them that an underground society exists
    • Froid name drops Paragon
    • Chromia plans to investigate his place with Windblade and Sideswipe
    Five interesting moments:

    A stand off:
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    Evil Megatron?
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    ...
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    Preparing a raid:
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    And a look at several bots for next issue:
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    So, we got some action scenes, saw who Termagax is as a person, some set up for the next issue, and we got to see Cyclonus as the main highlight of the issue. Overall, I’m satisfied with this issue.
     
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    That was a really fun issue.
    Megatron is starting to show his true colors and once again, Cyclonus is just a treat to watch. And FINALLY, the cop characters are going to take action.
    As usual, I'll probably have more to say when discussion begins.
    Shoutout to those little itty bitty bots.
     

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    Ok. I’m ready for a Siege Cyclonus toy now. Hasbro make it happen.

    Feels like the pace has finally picked up. This felt like it could have been at least two issues compared to the earlier issues in the run. We can also see the flashpoint forming up. Sideswipe in most continuities is a bot that will make sure something violent happens, and it looks like Flamewar would probably be happy to oblige.
     
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    I’d be totally on board if this is “canonical” Cyclonus now (including a similar depiction in the Netflix show).

    I thought it was a solid issue. I admire how they’re sticking to their guns and building out the plot slowly. There was a lot of “action” in the first half of the issue, but really this was another issue dedicated to setting the stage. Seems that something big is going to go down with Megatron soon.

    If I had to guess, I’d say that this run is heavily influenced (for better or worse) by early Game of Thrones.

    Also, they’re really incorporating a lot of female characters. I don’t want to go down the rabbit hole too much, but I’m totally on board with it.

    This is an interesting panel:

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    What artifacts!!?!
     
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    I like how Ruckley is writing Prowl so far. I hope he keeps it up because I really needed the clean slate after IDW1.

    What’s Megatron trying to do? I still can’t read him.
     
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    If I had to guess? He’s going to make a play soon. I’m guessing there will be another attack on Megatron, this one staged, that is supposed to kill Bumblebee.

    The poor Autobot that lost his charge to growing violence, renounced his allegiance and took up the noble cause struck down defending Megatron... what a horrible tragedy! Things have to change now!!

    That’s likely Megatron’s plan. What will actually happen is the situation out at the monument explodes. The deceptions kept in the dark freak out and split learning more is going on, the Autobots in the dark freak out and split over a case of police brutality. Both sides fracture, split, and riot.
     
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    Yeah, that second one sounds really likely. It will be interesting to see the Ascenticons split. I keep thinking back to that cover of Starscream spray painting the Ascenticon poster..

    . I like how Megatron’s lack of access to weapons (plus his position in the senate) forces him to scheme in the shadows. seems like every other version has him just gathering his people and starting a war.
     
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    I’d love them to have the balls to kill Bumblebee. Won’t happen, of course.
     
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    Megatron wants Bee to be a martyr for his cause. I like this issue and finally the Enforcers are acting like they have a processor between them. We need to see all aspects of society still because there is no real reason Ascenticons to exist much less who Shadow Striker ans Flamewar are with. Everyone seems to be well fueled for core systems that excludes weapons. Fuel rationing doesn't make sense the resources to invent things is not being conservative. There is no real class distinction to cause any ill effects on a individual.
     
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    bee didnt renounce his allegiance, he's not currently an autobot and hasn't been since this run began. he used to be a scout for the security services, which seems to be predominantly autobot, but was kicked out for some reason and has been unaligned until he joined the ascenticons
     
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    I bet that the common folk won’t get that distinction. Megatron will point him as an Autobot fed up, and that’s what people would remember.
     
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    i mean, thats possible, but bee has been pretty adamant for the last 8 issues that hes not an autobot.
     
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    He keeps repeating that because no one believes it.
     
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    People believe what they want I suspect in Bee case, Megatron, it seems like he is going to use that to his advantage.
     
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    Yeah, I'll agree with that. I saw your post and went to check it out, so Hasbro/IDW owes you advertising props for one person at least. I'm feeling negative today, though, so I don't know if this is interesting because everything before it has been dull as dishwater in comparison or if it's legitimately interesting on its own. As a whole, I feel like the book was standard as comic books go - not what you usually want from your intro. That said, at least it wasn't eye-rollingly slow.

    Isn't he basically a dead ringer for Combiner Wars Cyclonus?

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    I just bought a used one for $20, so... have at it?

    Huh. I don't see a lot of difference between this Cyclonus and many of the other prior Cyclonus incarnations (Cycloni?). He's grim looking, stoic, deliberately obtuse and doesn't share much of his own opinions. Even the G1 guy was more or less this, trading the angry with more endless proselytizing of Galvatron. What do you feel differentiates this one from the rest of them? Not trying to be confrontational - legit interested in your take.

    The artifacts may be a reference to the Artifacts of the Primes (i.e. the Requiem Blaster, the Hammer of Solus Prime, the Apex Armor, etc.). Tools like those would be paramount to expansion, insofar as they're basically the "magic helmet" of the Transformers world.

    It looks like Termagax was a failed revolutionary/advocate who gave up on trying to work under the system and ended up making toys in her hidey hole because every Transformer fiction needs to have a super-scientist making nuclear whatevers from piss and baling wire in their goddamn attic. Megatron's picking up her banner and radicalizing the movement. In short, you could pull thematic parallels between Marxist philosophy and the subsequent radicalization by Lenin/Stalin, or MLK/Malcom X.

    It might seem like it, but "gathering the posse" hasn't been Megatron's MO for a while. IDW1's Megatron had a long road to tyranthood fueled by underground political activism and philosophical writing long before his descent to violence. Cyberverse's flashback Megatron also shows a propensity to political rallies and activism with questionable motive.

    I think this came up in another thread. There's a reason for the Ascenticons to exist. Cybertron life is apparently restrictive and boring - that's basically confirmed by Froid's monologue. Even if life was a persistent utopia, there's a lot of people that would not be terribly happy if they were told what to do by the state on a regular basis. Add to that guys like Quake, veterans of colony wars, and you've got a potent mix of boredom and violence. You don't need class distinctions to start a revolution - just a bored or stifled populace. For examples of this sort of False Utopia, you can look at films like Demolition Man and Logan's Run, books like A Brave New World, or even the JLU episodes that dealt with dictator Superman and the Justice Lords.

    Examples aside, its one of the classic ideological splits in thoughts on government. Some people believe the government needs to take more active role in regulating the population at the expense of personal liberty and some people feel that government should stay out of the personal lives of the citizen. If you swing that too far into one direction or the other, you either get an oppressive Orwellian nightmare or Ayn Rand's wet dream. Neither situation could be considered great to live in which is more than enough conflict fodder for stories without having to lean heavily on "class struggle".
     
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    What do you think Megatron’s actual endgame is? I can’t decide if he sincerely wants to loosen the strict regulations and move Cybertron into a less fearful future (and eventually loses his way) or if he’s already evil/power hungry and wants to rule Cybertron so he can turn it into an empire and prove Cybertronian superiority/wipe out the lesser species.
     
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    They did, about 4 years ago. This character model is just Combiner Wars Cyclonus.
     
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    Hard to say. There's no discrete information that's there to form an opinion. We have limited information as to what his background is, what his character is actually like, or anything else for that matter aside from the one issue that shows he's prone to purple prose. Any conclusion on his motives or endgame would be purely speculative.

    That said, based on what we've seen I think this author is a little more of a realist than prior authors, insofar as his characters aren't purely vehicles for the story and have somewhat more grounded ideas and motivations. (Whether or not they're just set paces for the story is another thing entirely.)

    There's a possibility that he's neither a revolutionary nor a tyrant/space racist at all based on the tone but rather a little of both. Perhaps he's an opportunist that wants to line his own pocket and feels that Termagax's ideas aren't bad for him both personally and politically. Maybe the concept here is that he'd be in charge, line his pocket, make the people that feel disenfranchised happy, and then promptly loses control of the situation.
     
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    People do different things when they are bored to alleviate it that where my problem lies with Ascenticons. Take Hound for an example if he bored with an Utopian Society he will just leave. I can see Soundwave hacking more to alleviate the boredom. Megatron is trying to get the disenfranchised to join his cause. Shockwave in this setting would join because his research would cause him to do so. The restrictive society to Shockwave is that of Scientific Ethics Committee. No boredom is sufficient reason to destroy a society for some. Elita 1 joined because it is similar to military movement and gives her comfort zone. Bee joined because he feels that this Utopian society is at fault Rubble's death. Quake join because it gives him a license to murder plus he is a psychopath. Flamewar joined I suspect this might be some grand adventure and camaraderie. The movement at the rallies are also source of excitement for some and it is a social event. I believe Froid is wrong on the reason the Ascenticon existence.
     
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    This was the first issue I actually enjoyed in this run. The pacing was much better. The art was pretty good though it’s still not my favorite. The story seems to be finally getting someplace. Hopefully it picks up from here.
     
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