Hey everyone, I have a question for anyone that is old enough to remember the original Transformers movie that came out way back in 1986. Does anyone remember a cut of the movie that had significantly more gore and dialog? I would very much like a copy of it. I know there are versions of the movie that has Ultra Magnus getting ripped apart by the Sweeps, uncut versions, and a trailer that shows a significant amount of footage that didn't make it to the film, but those aren't what I'm talking about. I bought the re-release VHS back in 2005(?), and to my surprise, it seemed like the movie was more tame than I remember. I've since bought two different "uncut" versions of the movie(Shout Factory version and an older dvd release) but they were both the same version as the VHS. I've been looking for this "original cut" of the film and I have not been able to find a version that I remember. It could be that I'm just remembering it wrong and that I'm embellishing on my memories from my childhood, but there are a couple of points that make me certain that I am right and there is at least, at one point, a more violent version of the movie. For one, during the opening scene when the Decepticons were slaughtering the Autobots, I remember vividly that Ironhide had more dialog before getting blown away by Megatron. Something to the effect of "you won't get away with this", or "I will stop you even if it costs my life". I also remember seeing Ironhide's grotesque face as it was broken and destroyed, and let me tell you, that SCARRED me for life as I was very young at the time. Even though they're robots, it was still a very traumatizing scene for me, because it was a cartoon that was very near and dear to my heart and the concept of transformers dying was inconceivable to me before watching this. You don't forget when your favorite characters die when you're young... Next point is that a lot of key scenes from later dvd/blu ray releases seems to be missing some dialog. Specifically, when Optimus Prime fights Megatron, when Megatron meets Unicron, and when Kup and Hot Rod meets Kranix. The Megatron vs Optimus scene is a little more concrete proof that there might be another version of the film out there. When Optimus says, "that's a question you should ask yourself, Megatron" and then they cut to Megatron lowering his canon and says, "no, I'll crush you with my bare hands", it feels like a bad edit. Optimus is even standing up as he says his line when he was already standing the scene before. I believe there use to be more dialog and fighting leading to Megatron aiming his fusion cannon at Optimus. Prompting him to say something along the lines of "lets fight one on one without weapons" or "go ahead and shoot". The next two scenes are more of the same. It feels like the conversation between Unicron and Megatron was significantly edited because it doesn't seem like a natural flow of dialog. For example when Megatron says "show yourself", Unicron's reply was "I have summoned you here for a purpose". Watching that for the first time in over a decade was jarring. Lastly, when Kranix was being dragged away into the Sharkticon pit, Kup says, "...but in end, I wish for that." In the later releases, he just says that without context. The whole meeting between the three lasted about 10 seconds before Kranix was dragged away and I am certain that there were significantly more exposition leading up to that point. I have asked around and people have told me that they have reedited the movie because of complaints from parents, but it doesn't make sense that the uncut versions would be like this too. I have also heard speculation that the original footage just degraded overtime and the footage is lost forever. That seems like a more plausible claim and that might explain why I can't seem to find a single piece of media to support me. I apologize for rambling for so long, but it's been over 2 decades and I just want some closure on the matter. The movie and the G1 Transformers in general were a big part of my childhood. If anyone else have also seen this version of the movie or know of where I can find a copy of it, please let me know. It would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.