Toyworld TW-F09 Tactics Waistcoat (Freedom Leader)

Discussion in 'Transformers 3rd Party Discussion' started by Desertwindhounds, Jan 11, 2019.

  1. divinecomedy

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    This one continues to look the best in bot mode.
     
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    yep. the dimension of the cab section is most likely the part to compare with a real-world truck. Just the LxWxH of the cab section is a good reference.
    forget about the bed.
     
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    Just bought the zeta pioneer bee to go with this guy, I think they are the best trasformable versions available
     
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    Currently availible.
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    Yes
     
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    Width has always been my shortcut for checking Prime vehicle scales. Most big trucks are built ~96" wide to accommodate the DOT limit for city roads.

    That one dimension is usually enough to fit a Prime in with other vehicles. Length can vary (both in IRL vehicles with different configurations and with TF figures where they handle the leg transformation differently), and height usually isn't too far off.

    It's pretty common for Leader/MP primes to be about 2.75" wide (1:35) with the OS-scale stuff between 3.5"-4" (1:27 - 1:24)
     
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    Great info! 96" is the magic number I was looking for. 96" = 2.44m, now we can do the calculation.

    Challenger, 7.5cm, 1/32, too big for a MP, too small for an OS.
    MPP-10, 9cm, 1/27, no doubt, it's an OS.
    Besides these, Peru Kill and La Hire are ~1/25, OS
    even GP dinobots are ~1/25
     
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    Aren't MP carbots 1/32? Or were they 1/36? Can't remember for sure - I just know the carbots are too big to scale with mp10. And how do you figure the Dinobots are 1/25? Are you going off actual dino size or is there some other specific size you expect them to be? Because they're not even in scale with each other if you're going off actual dino size.
     
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    I dont have a mp-10, so i just take @Kouri's word for it. yes. I did go off actual dino size, like T-rex and triceratops. it's a very rough estimation of course. but swoop is way off.
     
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    I think it's Toy lab and Transcraft TC02. I now forgot lots of information about them, but TL Prime is probably 28cm, while TC02 is MPM size, aren't they?
     
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    Neither are MPM scaled. MPM-7 isn't even MPM scaled; with MPM-4 at 9.5", the MPM line was 1/35th scale, meaning MPM-7 should be less than 4", and an MPM KV Optimus should only be 5.5"; these sizes only work if you use that one prolific size chart, which I don't care for.
     
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    Given the BB movie designs are a reboot, we can throw size comparisons with the bay bots out the window.
     
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    Are you baiting? I was just curious how the vehicle mode of this transformer would scale with other mpm style transformer vehicles.
     
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    Personally I don't give a damn how they scale with the MPM figures but that's just me. Some people do enjoy those movies and many would like some consistency in their collection, regardless of whether the figures all fit in the same narrative or not.
     
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    Well, I don't think Hastak meant MPM to be 1/35th.

    When taking about MPM, imo we should rather think about characters themself. KV Bee has similar size as BV Bee, the same to OP and other characters. If Hastak go for MPM bumblebee OP, it will probably be around 25cm.

    Despite the scaling problems of MPM line, imo it's still good to know which figure fits in which scale, because at least it's the official line, and familiar to most collectors.
     
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    And they posted the bot bode scale. So no, I’m not baiting, I’m simply pointing out how comparing bot modes is pointless. You want baiting? Fight me
     
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    Most people seem to follow the chart that says Bumblebee is 11.6', and Optimus is 16'. Now I don't personally care for that chart, given I feel they are too small. There are moments in the movie in which BB is 16', and OP is 22'. Even if they were to follow that size, every availible or incoming OP is still too large.
     
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    Bee is around 10ft. In his VW form. The 16ft Optimus estimate is from when he’s standing next to bee but bee was a bigger car there so he was probably a bigger bot too. Plus OP at 16ft is pathetic.
     
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    Using some scenes, BB is 16' and OP is 22', which is... ok.
     
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