Discussion in 'Transformers 3rd Party Discussion' started by daimchoc, Aug 7, 2015.
This one has the green thighs instead of silver and only g1 head included
I think this was the second release of the original version of Constructor. Darker color in the purples and greens. It didn't include the Studio OX Headsculpt..at least mine didn't. It includes the green upper legs which for some reason the perfect version painted over.
I thought the colors between the two were also a difference but when I looked at your pics they looked the same then I enlarged them on the screen and held it next to my perfect and they look the same. I know that's not the most accurate way to tell but I think the versions that got a different purple anyway are so different that no matter the lighting or whatever, it's a clearly different color.
I see people saying that people would news glue for TW-C07X and being ready to repair brand new out of box.
Did you already have to do that with yours that you are selling or did yours never run into these issues?
I plan on keeping this guy in combined mode.
Has anyone created a purple crotch upgrade kit? similar to this pic
I own the Perfect Version, Old Green Version and the Old Yellow Version...including this original version I am wanting to sell and not once did I require glue on any of them. I guess I've been fortunate.
I would highly recommend avoiding this set at the moment. On the Masterpiece Facebook group where there aren’t even that many people who actively post, there have been reports of at least four of these sets being broken brand new right out of the box in the last two weeks! So build quality is really poor on the current crop, and most of the issues seem to be with the “Shovel” figure. The manufacturer does not seem to be willing to help either.
So if you buy this set, I think there is decently high probability you will have an issue, and you have to hope your seller is willing to take it back. It’s not a gamble I’d recommend.
And I am one of those people who did get a broken one, my Shovel was snapped in half in the box.
The problem is a combination of the type of plastic used to mold them, the choice in hardware for assembly, and the way these are being assembled. Some could get lucky and have nothing broken out of the box and if you are a person to lightly handle it enough to get it displayed, then those people say they've had no issues. I'm sure some sets were assembled having stress cracks start and hold together enough to be packed and shipped but in transport it is shaken enough to further agitate those stresses and some get broken bots out of the box. Then there are sets like what I got, nothing broken in pieces out of the box but while inspecting I noticed a couple areas (the waist and Scavengers body) that had a gap that should be tightly closed and the screws did nothing so I'm sure they are broken inside as well as when I took the head apart and thigh pieces off some of the posts were stress cracked and came apart.
I've only had him combined but I've moved every joint to their max capability posing him numerous times and nothing has further broken but I'm sure it could happen at any time without notice. Seeing the exact type of damage on everyone's that has posted pics, this set is riddled with problems and I'm willing to bet even the people that haven't seen any problems with theirs still have underlying stress cracks to some extent.
Also, whether or not you get a set sold in the foam or clam means nothing for these types of problems because it's an assembly related problem. The clam my perfect came in is molded very thick and actually was tough to separate and the bots were held solid in place. Two layers of boxes (original and shipping) were also thick making it feel like a brick when it showed up.
Nothing has changed with mold over the years and I doubt Toyworld will do anything about it because it's their gem. You just have to be prepared buying one that repairs will most likely be needed depending on a few of the factors I listed. The better the deal can offset a break when it happens. I would be super pissed to be one of the people spending $750 to $1000 on weathered or cel shaded versions and potentially having these issues. I know how to do the repairs though so I'd dive right in just the same. With being a person that likes to frequently handle and transform my bots, I know mine is going to further break one of these days and I've come to grips with that which is an unfortunate mindset to have when choosing to own a particular toy.
Thank you , I think you’ve talked me out of getting this set.
Maybe someone someday will make a better one down the road.
I would look for someone selling either the Individual bots or the basic boxset. I have the metallic and it's fine, but have heard horrors with the perfect edition
I had to buy longer (M2 12mm) screws to hold Burden's legs together because of 6 broken screw posts, all 4 broke on the left side and 2 posts broke on the right leg down near the foot. It's holding for now but I still have to reinforce/rebuild the post that holds the spring and ratchet piece. No idea how i'm going to do it though.
You are probably catching TW at a time when their production is just at an all time low. Yes there were QC issues in the past and they were random. I had a few minor issues, but my seller Showz was able to help me out. I will say that most American companies will not be able to help you with replacement parts in the long-term compared to Showz. Showz is able to reach out on your behalf and get your parts should they fail or break. This happened to me on a few occasions and Showz never let me down. I can't speak for other retailers that reside in Asia, but I can definitely vouch for him. Their establishment has always been able to get me out of a bind and all of my Constructors have come from him. So yea, I can definitely say that TW's QC has gotten worse and it's a roll of the dice with an American company who sells one to you. And as mentioned, a preowned one that has been verified as pretty solid is another route, but should you break something you can pretty much forget about contacting TW directly. They don't deal AT ALL with people who support their insanely expensive toys so yea they SUCK ASS, but they are the only ones who have made a really toon accurate devy. Good luck in your hunt man.
I also bought mine from ShowZ and they haven't been able to help me at all thanks to TW. It's been 6 months since I contacted them about Burden's legs being broken and all i've heard back is crickets. I wouldn't single American companies out in all this. They can't get parts because TW doesn't want to give anyone parts, and that includes ShowZ. ShowZ even had a warning on their homepage about them a few months back about how TW wasn't giving out replacement parts for the time being. It's just too bad I didn't see the warning before I bought it.
That reminds me. It's really pissing me off that I had to even consider buying a new Burden just to have an unbroken one. I'm just happy people are here to help out for those of like myself who have zero experience with this type of stuff. If I were left dealing with this crap on my own i'd just stop collecting or have a pile of broken bots like I had when i was a kid.
@Moos Crew You're probably making the right decision to wait. Until TW gets their shit together, if ever, i'd pass on it unless you found an insane deal on one. Anyone who doesn't pass needs to know they need to be prepared to fix things. Sometimes minor and sometimes much more significant. I'd only recommend him to people who aren't bothered by dealing with repairs.
As an aside, I have the not-so-Perfect Edition. Not sure if the problems spread across all models but i'm just putting it out there.
Well - I've owned the original, the Perfect, the "old green" and "old yellow" and none have given me any major problems other than overly tightened joints. I last purchase was the Perfect edition on it's initial release....
since then, releases have slowly gone downhill. Misaligned parts, frozen joints, broken or missing parts...and plastic shells rather than the more protective foam pieces. If you've jumped into the party this late to the game then you've more than likely ran into these nightmares many have described. I'm glad I got mine when I did. Seems they are just milking the mold till something else comes along to take its place. I don't blame anyone who wants to wait...
Saying that, still an impressive piece when it works. I love mine.
A shame that has happened. I can say that the blame lies solely on TW. I feel bad for those who are just now getting in on the Constructor wave that has been in the works for the past few years. It definitely was not like this at the beginning. Spare parts were available and the bots were sold individually. I guess when TW split and Zeta toys was formed (at least that is what I read on forums) the shittiest of the people stayed on with TW to see just how many Constructors they could pump out in all sorts of colors and variations without any regard to customer service. Now I guess TW as bad as they are to begin with, have pretty much gotten to the point that buying anything from them is just a bad option all together. What a shame. So for sure the secondary market is the best option. A real shame no one came out and did one to compete with TW. If someone had, the price for TW's would have dropped dramatically. It is what it is.
TFSource got back to me about my damaged parts and instructed me to send the affected figures back to them w/ a prepaid label. I noticed on their site they increased the price for the Perfect Edition to $519.99 (I got it for $499.99 last month).
They probably increased the price because of the likelihood they will be dealing with broken parts and they want to offset the cost in shipping. They should be getting a bucket load of new parts from Toyworld to take care of these issues. If they are opening boxes to take care of the problems, there is a good possibility they will find another broken one or swap out a bot for one on the verge of breaking. I personally would prefer to get brand new virgin parts never installed if I had to go through a warranty repair, that way I could use the proper screws or use a tap to properly thread the plastic posts so they can't break under the force of screwing in their screws.
I wish you the best for an overall outcome getting yours fixed! What a horrible issue Toyworld has created.
What's pissing me off the most in all of this is Toyworld is still an active company with current products out and they are still utter shit with dealing with replacement parts. There's no excuse for it.
Sometimes I think "No other 3P company will give us an orange MP Devastator, I should get orange Constructor...", and when that happens I re-watch Sixo's video review of it, in which every single one of his bots had some QC issue (cracks, loose joints, or both) and that feeling goes away.
Hey, I was thinking about your repair for Burden and maybe this is a better way to go, threaded standoffs/spacers. Get the corresponding size to thread into the plastic post, do the math to make sure you trim off the correct amount from the post, and screw in the standoff giving you new threads to put him back together with. They come in aluminum and plastic and easy to make either work. I'd use the aluminum but most likely the original toyworld screws will no longer screw in to hold him together so you'd have to get machine threaded screws that match heads if you want it to look like toyworlds screws. The plastic would be strong enough to hold him together afterwards but you'd have to use a tap to thread the post so they screw in otherwise the threaded portion of the standoff would break trying to force it to make threads. You can get these at McMaster's carr like this pic and since these are very common in computers, radio shack or similar electronics stores have them. I think I even have some and can double check all the hardware I have and check them against constructor so I will know that they work. If they do and you want to try this I can send them to you.
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