Discussion in 'Transformers General Discussion' started by Longitudinalwave, May 13, 2021.
There are UT characters that shit on Jg1 characters. What are you on?
There isn't a stat there below 9, what are you on?
Stats dont matter. They are horribly inconsistent with the character.
You okay, dude? What's up with the sass today?
Deszaras nearly kills Star Saber in canon in a one-on-one fight, but his weapons run out of energy. Assuming Deszaras learned to charge his phone overnight in this universe, victory would be his.
Also, you can’t say the stats don’t matter and then use the stats as evidence that Victory Saber is somehow equally durable to Star Saber. A 10 is the highest any of the stats go. It’s possible that the 10 on Star Saber is lower than the 10 on Victory Saber.
Was not using stats.
Prove star saber doesn't get more powerful during victory.
“Prove Deszaras doesn’t get more powerful during Victory.”
That just means that Star Saber got stronger before Deathsaurus started.
Star Saber getting more powerful us only because he combines with victory leo. If he didn't have victory Leo to combine with, he would still be weaker than Deathsaurus
Then why did star saber finish the first part of the fight?
Thats ignoring plot consistency.
“If he finished the first part, why not the second?” These are all terrible arguments. He hasn’t fought Deszaras on his own and killed him. Deszaras, on the other hand, mortally wounded Ginrai and nearly beat Star Saber to death.
I dont need good ones for this.
Matter of fact,you never countered my point of star saber getting stronger over the course of victory.
If my arguments are terrible, then that talks a lot about your counters.
Not only that, in their final fight, Star Saber is doing MOST OF THE DAMAGE. Victory saber is not even in the fight for that long.
WHAT"S THIS?? IT'S ESMERAL RUNNING IN THE RING WITH A STEEL CHAIR!!!
Supreme Commander, DUCK!
Supreme Commander Duck
This is a difficult fight to call, because there have been a number of canonical fights between these two characters, including the final fight between the two of them in Victory, where Star Saber walked away as the unambiguous winner (as he killed Deathsaurus). However, there were also two fights in Victory where Deathsaurus had Star Saber at the point of death and would have been able to kill him if it hadn't been for outside interference. So the anime doesn't provide conclusive evidence for the outcome of a one-on-one battle.
Going strictly by stats, Deathsaurus narrowly beats out Star Saber, with an edge in Strength, Intelligence, and Skill. It's also worth noting that Deathsaurus generally appears to be the more cunning combatant of the two; prone to laying traps and lying in ambush. He also has at least four different weapons at his disposal (a bow and arrow, a sword, the Living Metal Destroying Cannon, and a mace), plus Eaglebreast and Tigerbreast. Oh, and he can breathe fire in his alternate mode. Star Saber also has a lot of weapons, though, including a sword, a gun (which he, strangely, doesn't use all that often) and the ability to launch missiles. In his smaller Saber mode, he can pilot the V-Star in combat, but doing this might make him less durable since he would no longer have the full Star Saber armor.
They have equal speed, and both can fly, although since the battle takes place in Chicago, Star Saber might have a slight advantage in terms of maneuverability, as it's probably easier for a jet to avoid obstacles than it would be for a giant chicken monster.
All in all, this battle is almost too close to call. Both are very powerful combatants with a lot of abilities. Both have emerged victorious in one-on-one battles with the other. Both have really good stats. Star Saber has heroic courage and determination which might give him the edge, but on the other hand, Deathsaurus is a more calculating player; much less likely to engage his foe directly from the start. And I don't want to vote for Deathsaurus just because I like him a bit better. ARRGH!
Oh, forget it. In the interests of not missing out on the voting of the final round of the tournament, I'm going to vote for the Giant Chicken Monster. He does have better stats.
Suddenly it becomes the Victory Manga ending, and we have no winner.
Finally, the perfect bracket challenge ending.
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