Ah, well, to be fair, the voyager Prime actually doesn't look too bad.

 

I wish they could reveal all 3 waves during toy fair, but I have a feeling it's just going to be just wave 1 or 1 and 2.

 

The toys tend to go a long way with me enjoying the material.. but when you release dog shit toys, it tends to negatively affect my opinion on something.

This movie seems like it needs all the good it can get, and repaints of mediocre figures just aren't going to cut it.

I wish they'd draw a hard line between collector figures and toys rather than compromise and produce something that isn't anywhere close to collector level and is still a tad bit complex for a young child.

If the "movie masterpiece" figures promised to give us the key players (the way they appear in THIS movie) I'd be thrilled. But like I said they're trying to cater too much to a middle ground.

 

Or it's a sign that the movies aren't that important to Hasbro's bottom line any more, and the continued existence of endless sequels has more to do with Paramount's interests than Hasbro's.

 

That really would shoot down the claims of how important the films are to this franchise anymore, though.

 

Yes, because several movies over the last decade hitting or approaching a billion dollars in revenue, multiple toy lines, a comic continuity popular with hardcore fans, two simultaneous television shows, a crappy web series getting sequels, and video games are all indicative that Transformers is finished as a brand.

I don't plan on getting this since I already have the original AOE Voyager from Hasbro, but that's it. I'm not getting it, but I'm not bitching about it either. For those who did not get the original this is a good chance for them to add this mold to their collection.

 

Explain to me exactly how TRANSFORMERS is a dying brand ?

 

I may have the AOE mold, but i am still picking him up, and i am not upset with them doing repaints.

 

Me either , I think GRIMLOCK as well as SLASH look AMAZING ! And am totally loving the new box packaging for the deluxes .

 

I like that Grimlock, and the redeco of Slash looks promising! The fact that the Bumblebee is still the same saddens me to no end.

 

Box Office =/= actual revenue.

Yeah, sure, the film made a billion dollars. How much of that actually got back to fill Paramount/Hasbro's coffers? Because IIRC, those deals signed with the Chinese government ensured 75% of every US dollar amount made in China would go back to the Chinese government.

Riiiight. Because the near non-effort being put into what is known for TF5 compared to AoE in its entirety is not a sign of problems whatsoever, somehow. Or that's what you seem to be implying.

Oh, wait, that's true for any major film meant to market toys in the first place. God knows Cars has been out there for years.

The movies did not get a comic adaption for AoE as far as I'm aware.

On different competing networks because Hasbro drove the Hub into the ground.

If it's crap then why is it getting sequels?

Did...did you just defend that shit titled Rise of the Dark Spark?

And you miss the entire point. This should be a chance to improve upon the design, instead they're giving us the exact same mediocre toy wholesale.

I wasn't talking about the franchise. I was talkign about the movies. A billion dollars revenue isn't going to superscede a failing domestic take because guess which one Hasbro/Paramount actually gets more money from per dollar. Hint: it's not China.

 

I think these premier edition are just exactly what they say, they arent the official toys.

Remember how for ROTF we had the premier soundwave and bumblebee toys which were a repaint of the movie one version (with slight retooling)? We will get a proper bumblee everyone this is just the teaser toys.

 

I don't know. We have not seen any sneak preview figures for a long time and I don't think they would release that many at once.

 

Semantics , one in the same ..What do you think the movies are if not part of the franchise ?... You have no idea whats planned for this toy line . I for one am glad we don`t have a new bee , how many would that make ?

 

Oh, nice colors. That will fit in nicely among my Shattered Glass Autobots.

 

Oh boy...

Revenue=/= profit. Which film had the highest profit and revenue of 2014? The answer is Transformers: Age of Extinction.

So? Transformers has other ongoing comics, and the filmmakers didn't want any adaptations in case plot details got released like DOTM's did.

Two different Transformers television series. Running at the same time.

I'm not the guy who greenlit them, so don't ask me.

I have never played ROTDS. I have not played a TF game since FOC. Also, bringing up Transformers video games is not the same thing as defending them so much as simply acknowledging official Transformers video games have been released in recent years.

Here's the problem AB, and I'm saying this respectfully. You take your own hatred of the movies and movie toys and project that hatred as evidence that the movies themselves are going to tank and that most of the world hates the movies, and you act as if the movies are an affront to the brand itself. If you don't like them and have your reasons that's fine, and I'm glad people here are free to express their issues with the films, but please don't act as if the movies aren't financially successful because you don't like them.

 

I only say, I don't know. I really anything.  

 

I've said it before and Ill say it again this is your TLK toy line:

deluxe: 7 repaints 5 new molds.
Bumblebee-repaint
Slash-repaint
Barricade-new mold
Bezerker-new mold
Slag-repaint
Snarl-repaint
Drift-new mold
Squeks-new mold
Strife-repaint
Slug-repaint
Hotrod-new mold
Crosshairs-repaint

Voyager: 2 repaints and 4 new molds.
Optimus-new mold
Grimlock-repaint
Sludge-repaint
Megatron-new mold
Hound-new mold
Onslaught-new mold

 

At least this Grimlock's deco is better than the previous one...or that greenish patina seen in the Movie the Best line.