Titan Returns Appreciation Thread

Discussion in 'Transformers Toy Discussion' started by Lady Slipstream, Nov 20, 2015.

  1. transfan32

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    Rough and Tumble crowd.
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    'Meet the Wreckers...and get wrecked!'
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    With Siege going strong currently, I go back to take another look at my Titans Return Blurr.

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    The color on this figure isn't for everyone, but frankly I'm fine with it. Despite being a bit on the overused side, it's still a pretty good mold with nice articulation, packed with nice transformation and robot mode.
     
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    Siege bullying Titans Return. It's not ok.
    "Shrapnel dies instantly...turning him into a weapon I can use against Octane"
    Impactor, you fucking bad-ass!
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    Tank battle:

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    Didn't end well for Quake.

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    Let's talk about Decepticons for a moment. While the Autobots have really only ever had two leaders, and Rodimus Prime was quickly shuffled away and replaced with Optimus Prime again because of the tears of children, the Decepticon leadership has always been more fluid, and many different characters have taken on the mantle from time to time. The Watsonian explanation is that the Decepticon ranks are full of ambitious, power-hungry warlords all climbing on top of each other to claim power, but a more sober Doylist view is that the original leader Megatron was never quite the smash hit that his Autobot counterpart was. An awkward toy that very quickly became difficult to sell thanks to its realistic gun mode, and none of the Robo-Dad charms that Prime held, meant that Megatron's time in the limelight was limited.

    All of which means that the Decepticons ended up with a far more interesting roster of lead characters than the Autobots ever managed. Let's start with the first major replacement for Megatron... Galvatron, aka Megatron-but-with-a-crown.

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    I think that the G1 cartoon failed Galvatron. Introduced in the 1986 movie with Leonard Nimoy's growliest of growl-voices and a mean streak half a parsec wide, he was a definite step up from Megatron in terms of ability and raw power. But when season 3 rolled around at the end of the year it was felt he needed to be taken down a peg or two, so his power was tempered with utter batshit insanity. Suddenly Galvatron wasn't quite as compelling a villain, as he constantly carried the potential to derail his own plans with a moment of manic screeching and shooting his own lackeys in a fit of rage. He fared better in the Marvel comic, where the insanity-ball was passed back and forth between him and Megatron, ultimately being a far more intimidating villain over its run. I get the feeling that Simon Furman hadn't really watched season 3 in any great detail, as his 2006-characters all seemed more in line with their movie portrayals than the series itself.

    I never owned the Universe Galvatron mould, and confess I'm somewhat bemused by the bad reputation it's garnered over the years. It doesn't look bad at all in pictures, but even so, the Titans Return version was clearly going to be the definitive Galvatron for the ages... right?

    Titans Return Galvatron is a great toy, the best Galvatron we've ever had from Hasbro, and a failure. That's a fascinating brew of good and bad all thrown into one, and somehow just adds to the underlying charm. The greatest sin is undoubtably the terrible attempt at Galvatron's three-spiked helmet design, relegated into an utterly hopeless pop-up mask. It looks awful from any angle other than straight on, and barely turns at all. It's all made worse by the poorly-hidden revelation that the original design featured a separate helmet that fit much more snugly. There's a bunch of options to rectify this, including 3D printed helmets from Shapeways and a more solid job from Toyhax. I've got my Galvatron modelling a G1-based Shapeways helmet, and it makes for a far, far greater look. As in, Galvatron can now look around.

    The second problem is the perennial misunderstanding over where the arm-cannon should be placed. Takara, Hasbro, once and for all can you please make it a rule that arm guns should be in line with the back of the hand, not the thumb? The latter, which is TR Galvatron's default look, never looks anything other than utterly dorky. It's all because the G1 toy had the cannon in the same place (as with Megatron), but as soon as the animation teams got on it they quickly decided it had to go on the outside of the arm for the characters' dignity. Anyway, another Shapeways add-on fixes this, giving a new port for the cannon in the right place.

    And it certainly is a mighty cannon. You can well argue that the original G1 toy's gun was a little bit on the skinny side, so TR goes all out making it a huge, day-glow murder-cigar. Any bigger and it would look absurd, but it just about stays on the right side of bonkers to work. Just. Either way, the cannon becomes the unavoidable key feature of the entire figure, dominating the look in every single mode. Along with the triple-horned crown, it's how you can tell that this is Galvatron.

    So yeah, two key features of the character, and they managed to bork them both up. That's a failure right there, a failure on its own terms of engagement. It's like making a Hot Rod and forgetting to put any flame decals on there. Still, it's good to know that they can be fixed, and when you do... you get one hell of a toy. Galvatron is just so much more alive than his predecessor. Megatron looks like some tired, down-on-his luck colonel by comparison, but Galvatron gets a friggin' great crown. Much respect for the first real Emperor of Destruction.

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    The alt modes are about as good as you'd expect, i.e. they're fine. The space-artillery cannon mode is the traditional one, and does a good job of beefing up his firepower by making his entire body part of the weapon. It was always a more dependable alt mode than a tiny little handgun, but perhaps doesn't have the same pizzazz for the kids as artillery guns aren't exactly as in-vogue like they were in 1917, and Galvatron didn't look that much like one in the first place. But it's still fun. Along with this the handgun has been swapped out for a sort of space fighter thingy. It's not the best, essentially being Galvatron's legs being arranged funny and a cockpit swinging up over his shoulders, but thank god it exists. It's no good that your Deceptileader needs to constantly rely on his underlings to ferry him around, and means that Cyclonus doesn't have to grow to 10x the size every time his boss wants to climb inside to nip down to the shops. Get your own groceries, Galvatron! Anything that manages to do away with mass-shifting is a win in my book.

    Like with Rodimus Prime, I do wish that the G1 cartoon had built up the confidence to really go for Galvatron and give him the arc he deserved. Imagine what would happen if in the first episode of a full season 4 Galvatron rocks up with his sanity fully restored, and the Autobots utterly bricking it. Instead he just faded away again, and never quite fulfilled his true potential as a character. We lost so much with the collapse of the cartoon at the end of season 3. At least we'll always have Marvel, Galvy.

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    Very enthralling ,Galvatron is my favorite Decepticon leader after Shockwave.
    Galvatron has improved Megatron bot mode,is stronger and has that futuristic cannon, in TR version and also G1 is amazing! I admit however that in s3 was very funny.
    And we can thank just his problem that "Webworld"could be written and is one of few episodes I still like rewatching so many times.Galvatron had so many memorable scenes and quotes there, same for Cyclonus .In my opinion they could have cured him for s4,I also would have liked him competent and charismatic but his brain damage rendered him interesting,what do you think?
    Besides if he had been recovered from lava planet perfecly sane..problems for Rodimus burden would have been an absolute nightmare.In this way instead both faction had a dark tone with leaders that for different reasons, miss complete wisdom of their predecessors.
     
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    I remember the tease at the end of Return Of Optimus Prime that the Matrix had cured his insanity. That would have made any potential future stories interesting.
     
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    Christ, did I really have to justify that with "in the west"?
     
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    Didn't Fort Max lead the Autobots for a while in the G1 Marvel comics? While Optimus was dead.
     
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    :lol  Welcome to TFW, where pedantry rules!

    Awesome post BTW!!!
     
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    Same goes for Grimlock but he was talking cartoon. So no Sentinel Prime or any other who had the matrix?
     
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    Since most of these are Legends during Titans Return times, I’ll post these here as well as in the All Your Base Are Belong To Us! thread.

    Octane and Trypticon (+drones) attempt a desperate Energon raid on Autobot base (+drones):
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    But unfortunately for them, the Autobot Headmasters happen to be hanging around as well:
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    ...added a little Rewind & Eject mini-base:
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    Thank you for that amazing review.
    I always loved my insane Galvatron before I started reading post of people who found fault with that characterization.
    Now I also think they should have cured him by the middle of season three.
    How cool would it have been if the Decepticons suddenly were rallied by a charismatic and inspiring movie Galvatron reborn?
    Anyway, I am perfectly happy with my TR Galvatron with the Shapeways add-ons and some silver sharpie magic.
    But I doubt I could resist a new version.
    On the other hand, when I look at siege Megatron :confused: 
     
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