timberwolf and Superman X=wolverine type character?

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  1. GENOZAUR

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    when it comes to the animated series legion of superheroes durign the second season

    is it just me or does timberwolf and superman x come across as being in a certain manner of speaking a take on wolverines character?
     
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    Is it just me, or am I detecting a pattern?
     
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    it's just you!
     
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    No, it's not. Maybe you should just start a DC cartoon thread and update that when you have another thought about it?

    And yes, I don't think the Wolverine/Timber Wolf comparison is a subtle one.
     
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    that whole scene towards the end of the season 2 episode dark victory part 2 where the 2 supermen went digital going int b5's head and fusioned into kellex

    i was outright shocked the guy didn't sport a set of wrist mounted energy to matter conversion based energized chrystaline/chrystalized? kryptonite claws to comeplete the homage in that regard
     
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    Despite the feral nature of his powers, I never really considered Timberwolf a Wolverine character.
    Timberwolf was a victim and was seeking justice.

    However, Superman X definitely was a Wolverine type of character.
    He was even created to be a weapon like Wolverine.

    What I think was sad though was the fact that the character's potential was never realized.
    Kell-El could have been so awesome.

    Here we have a plausible reason to have Superman without his own morally imposed limitations and without his physical vulnerability to kryptonite.
    He was introduced as an all-business megapower but then, other than a few focus episodes, was reduced to another hero in the background who got zapped just as easily as everyone else.

    And, yeah, Genozaur I think you should keep one thread going if you have future thoughts on Legion.
    There were several times I had thought of something that I wanted to add to a thread you started on the main DCAU, but because you basically had a thread for each observation it was too much trouble to search for the appropriate thread and add my thought.
     
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    Actually, Timber Wolf (originally Lone Wolf) was created a full decade before Wolverine. If anything, Wolverine is a Timber Wolf type character - the somewhat feral loner working with a team and dating a woman who later turns out to be a lesbian (that last part doesn't quite apply to Wolvie, but everything else is spot on - they even had the same haircut).

    In fact, the artist who drew all of Wolverine's early adventures with the X-Men, Dave Cockrum, had just finished up a highly acclaimed run on Legion of Super-Heroes when he got the X-Men gig (comic book fun fact: Nightcrawler and Storm's designs were originally intended to be used for new LoSH characters).
     
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    Awesome info -but I believe Genozaur is referring to Timberwolf in his Legion of Super Heroes cartoon incarnation.

    But the comic character gets +1 for the whole lesbian thing.
     
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    True - but early comic Timber Wolf was not the character we have today, who was largely retweeked in the late 80's/early 90's to definitely be a Wolverine archetype. And if there weren't notes in the LSH cartoon offices somewhere that referred to Timber Wolf as "like Wolverine, but from space" or something, well I'll eat my hat.
     
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    It is true that they made him a lot more feral later on, but Brin did already have the lone wolf theme going for him in the 70s, though. So his general role as "team loner" was being developed at around the same time the X-Men were relaunched.