Thundercats!

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  1. fschuler

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    For better or worse, I don’t have the display space for anything larger than the figures. For these side collections especially (e.g. TCats, Silverhawks, etc.) I’m really just trying to stick to the handful of main characters I actually remember. I honestly do not remember Mandora at all.
     
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    I said i was drawing the line at the original heroic team. Then I got Pumyra and Lynxo on sale and it kind of snowballed from there. Currently trying to hold the line at the full TCats team vs MummRa and the original mutants. But if I see other cheap I probably won't be able to resist.

    And once my new printer arrives I'm going to try printing my own Tank.
     
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    LOL! No but it will be pointless as I’m in Singapore and the utilities bill will be a killer. At this point in life I just want to collect and mess around with my kids.
     
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    I’ll just have the main cats and Snarf vs Mumm-Ra (powered and non-powered), Slithe, Jackalman and Monkian. I wasn’t going to get non-powered Mumm-Ra or Jackalman…but I caved. I think I’ll be able to resist the rest of them (except berbils, maybe) since I don’t have very strong memories of many characters beyond the A-listers. It’s probably best that my aging brain has forgotten most of the details.
     
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    I mean, outside the U.S., a lot of people don't run air conditioning and think we're decadent for spending money to adjust a room by 3 degrees.

    Heat's a necessity some places in winter but the idea of central air to hit a target temperature or modifying air humidity for comfort is just out of the question.

    I had a real awakening when I went to central Europe a few years ago because my money spent really far buying beer and some collectibles -- and then I started looking at clothes and they cost the same as what they cost here, even though I met lawyers making like just $15k.

    And then it hit me that everyone I was spending time with who lived in Prague owned one pair of shoes and five outfits and didn't go out and buy shirts or socks because they forgot to do laundry. And there were shoe repair shops everywhere, whereas I thought of shoes as something you throw in the trash every nine months.

    There's definitely some stuff we take for granted like the ability to earn a t-shirt's worth of money in 15 minutes of work or that it's normal here to have low key disagreements with your family over whether 68 degrees vs. 72 (20 vs. 22 Celsius) is uncomfortable. But when it IS normal, it's hard to remember how psychotic we probably sound to other people.

    I'm pretty sure persistent disagreements over 2 degrees Celsius in room temperature has been the difference between a lot of relationships ending or not in the U.S.

    I have to remember it wasn't like that when I was a kid and that large chunks of the world right now don't have a little digital display in even their cheap apartments where they can fiddle with the room temperature down to the degree.
     
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    For the record, they are not rubber, they are a flexible plastic.
     
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    Yup, it is considered excessive to get one - especially in my country.

    Is it confirmed? Because in a Super7 video they did mention rubber tracks. If it’s plastic…I’ll buy it! :D 
     
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    Once something becomes normal, it's hard to go back! If I went to the cheapest and most rundown apartments within 10 miles of where I live, they'd have central air. I could be destitute and in debt up to my eyeballs and I'd probably still have air conditioning in the U.S. I might not run it as much but the difference between running it all the time and not at all is still only a couple of hours of minimum wage work. And our minimum wage is low in the western developed world! Our energy costs/infrastructure is just weird.

    Anyway, as for the Thundertank, a lot of people end up using the terms rubber and plastic interchangeably.

    My guess would be that even if they are rubber that someone will 3D print plastic replacements.

    And, man, I keep looking at the Super7 vehicle stock on EE. They have a ton. And I doubt the orders are going up with the delays. They probably get more cancellations than new orders, particularly without a nonrefundable deposit.

    I think it's headed for a big clearance. I'd personally set aside about $300 if I was uncertain about it because I think EE will end up selling these for $300 just to clear out warehouse space.
     
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    Can you tell how many they sold vs. how many they have available??
     
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    I wonder if part of that may be that homes are made better in other countries? US homes have become almost as cheap and disposable material wise as grocery bags. The walls are so thin, they could barely insulate anything. I bet I could easily kick through a wall easier than most doors if I wanted to break into someone’s house, lol.
     
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    I’ve been told pretty much that very thing by a homebuilder before.
     
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    A lot of S7 buyers will become upset if the Thundertank is available by 2023 Christmas for $250-$300 price range. These things are supposed to be made to order, and backers are closing in on two years of giving their money upfront at the $500 price point.
     
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    Yes, some Thundertank buyers will be pissed (not me, it was worth the $450). But I think @RodimusRex is right, there will be a big discount on Thundertank later this year, similar to the Blitzway Voltron going from $699 to $480/$500 at EE/ShowZ. They can’t just hold on to super large items indefinitely, warehouse space costs money.

    I really wish S7 would stop this “made to order” lie they’ve been hanging on to. If 75% of all ultimates figures are still available at retail partners, then they’re not made to order. Just do the tooling ahead of time, and put them up for preorder right before production starts. I think everyone’s getting pretty tired of waiting for 1.5-2.5 years for the delivery.
     
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    Agree and I think a lot of S7 buyers are upset at the moment for different reasons anyway like delays, quality etc.
     
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    I agree. Between drops in quality, super slow delivery, floundering lines (Transformers, NJPW, etc), and the impending price hikes, it’s hard to bet on Super7. I started collecting GI Joe Classified again, because I’m afraid S7 will go out of business before they get me a full set of Joes.
     
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    I can tell they let you order 24 per order and make you do a different order for more. On a run on 2000, that's a lot.
     
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    If "made-to-order" matters from a collectability standpoint, you cap orders at 3-5 units, including to retailers.

    These are made-to-order but somebody can order 100 and large retailers are willing to take a loss to move them.

    Plus, they're sold at a discount to distributors who still have enough margin to sell them to retailers who still have enough margin to ship them for free, which undermines the made-to-order aspect. At a minimum, IMHO, Super7 should ship wave assortments free on direct orders.

    But the thing to keep in mind is that while comic shops get these from Diamond and there's multiple steps of distribution that absorb profit there, Entertainment Earth is a distributor. If there's enough discount for both a retailer and a distributor to make money, EE can sell these at 25 cents over wholesale prices and make their money on volume.

    Whereas, IMHO, direct orders from S7 shouldn't need to be $80 shipped. I get it. You don't want to undercut retailers. Offer free shipping on S7 site exclusives. We NORMALLY get free shipping (or close to it) when we order those through anybody but S7.
     
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    The Thundercats line is the first S7 line that I have bought. Originally, I was going to go all in on the G.I. Joe line, I even had a pre-order for twenty five S7 Bats. Now, I will probably finish the Thundercat line and pick up the Joe line at discount, the S7 TF line sold for $20 each at EE.
     
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    Brian was very clear in one of the video interviews that they would not be rubber but a plastic formulation, that they would be designed not to disintegrate. He knows better. You may want to wait till folks get them in hand and post reviews but I think this is going to be a non-issue for you if that was your only concern.

    Me, I am coming to accept I have no where to display the thing, it came out much bigger than I was imagining. So I'm passing at this point.
     
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    I’m sure that the treads will hold up over time. But I still think they went too cheap/thin with the final production treads. I’m hoping a customizer makes upgraded ones, but that’s pretty unlikely.

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