Things seen and things hinted at.

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  1. tonyformer

    tonyformer Well-Known Member

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    Ok so the movie is officially out and my NDA is more than lifted so I can offiacly talk lol.

    Things seen in the move.

    Some of these things others have seen, may not have seen, seen but didn't actually catch it all and or seen but need explanation on.

    1. Ratchet and Leadfoot both being killed.
    2. Ratchet shooting and killing humans. (Don't blame him) he was forced to.
    3. Ratchet having his Spark taken out. Lockdown probably took it as he probably did with others he kills and gave the bodies to the humans to be melted.
    4. Lockdown had his trophy room in the Ship that the Dinobots now have, as I'm sure after they were done, they more than likely went back to. Its succeeded and out of the way, so I'm sure they went back to the ship to use it as their base.

    5. If lockdown was putting all his trophies in that trophy room on that ship, I'd more than bet Ratchet's Spark Chamber and any others Spark Chambers are there. This would give the Dinobots something more to protect until (maybe) in movie 5, Joshua could make new bodies to put those Spark Chambers back into. Maybe Ratchet will be back in a new fresh body and new alt mode this way.

    6. Lockdown calls OP a knight even before he gets the Sword and his knight powers. So this is theory, but I'm starting to believe OP was always intended to be a knight and that the knights and original Primes ate one and the same in this universe.

    7. Lockdown gives OP the name of the Ship he took from the Knights. But I could not hear the name over the noise in the theater. Have seen the movie 3 times now and can not make out the name he gives OP. OP has seen the ship before and recognizes it.

    8. I believe the Dinobots are also knights but not knights as in high knights like OP or the other past knights. But I do believe them to be lower class knight warriors that would have been the right hand might of the "leader class knights" or Primes in this case.

    9. Lockdown says OP was built by the "creators" and not doing as they intended? Maybe OP was intended to be doing just what The Fallen and other Primes were doing in ROTF, harvesting to keep Cybertron functioning and not aiding other life?

    10. I believe the bug eyed junk robots on the ship might have been intended to be movie "junkions"?

    11. The spiked ball drones on the ship were actually the spiked ball "pegs" from Hasbro's Battleship movie lol. Conceptualized by none other than Josh Nizzi.

    12. The large mechanical beast with tendrils that the junk bots were feeding scrap to looked a lot like another "Driller" from DOTM, except it had more pronounced claw/grabbing tendrils rather than the spinning saws saws like in DOTM.

    13. The ship lockdown used to capture OP in the net was a smaller copy of the Ark from DOTM.

    14. Lockdowns ship (the knight ship) was never shot down and was still leaving while being shot at by Air Force fighters. It's still alive and will probably be seen again.

    15. The truck that pulls up at the KSI gate has the Buick concept, Silver Cadillac Cien concept, Blue Aston Martin and white Ferrari on it and those were being brought in to be "scanned" so new TFs could be molded after them.

    16. The Cadillac Cien, Buick concept, white Aston Martin with many other cars were all lined up in KSI. There was also an all white Argosy truck like the Galvatron truck. And a blue and red "Optimus" like truck but only the back end was visible.

    17. The white Aston Martin and orange McLaren were seen on the road with Stinger. But the blue and green lambos and Isuzu Garbage truck was not seen.

    18. The Junkheap (trio) were indeed the Mack Garbage truck.

    19. Sentinel Prime's head was being looked at in KSI.

    20. The shockwave drones that had 2 heads did indeed have 2 different heads. One head was a complete copy of Shockwaves head with the 2 horns. But the second had had one horn in the center of the head like a unicorn lol.

    21. Galvatron/ Megatron does not have a Spark Chamber and his essence is now located throughout his whole body. And when he gives sentience to the other drones, it looks like the power he gives them might in fact be that of the AllSpark. He did absorb its power in movie 1 and while it was never really used after that, it seems like they have revisited the notion that he has the AllSpark power running through him and can give life to things to make new TFs.

    22. While the KSI formers or at least most of them are dead, I believe Megs can now give life to normal vehicles in turn making more traditional transforming Cons again. (Just a theory on my part) don't kill me ;) 

    23. Rally car first shows up, no driver lol. Shane comments how he's never driven this good before? Seems like the car was helping? Sonic was rammed by a Rally Fighter and only a broken window with no side damage? Lockdown drops the grenade in the area of the car and Lucas, Lucas dies and the car is no where to be found? A lot was cut with the car and was even confirmed by GM that it was a TF. Why Bay cut it, who knows but maybe it will be explained why it was cut. Its clear it was always intended to be a TF.

    Edit:
    24. Te blue security drone inside KSI is a repurposed Con protoform from the looks of it.

    25. Noticed that that Con ship in the Chicago news vids that's being dismantled looks to be te one that Brains and Wheelie brought down. Could be when Brains was found and Wheelie obviouly didn't make it.


    Now onto hints I gave in my sigs.

    1. Jelly fish hint :) 
    2. The 3 of us might be small but we will still take you on big boy= Junkheap threesome vs Hound
    3. What's up with all the resurrection=Megs
    4. It will always be mine= Earth Megs
    5. I used all my ammo all I have is this Swiss Army knife= Hound
    6. So you can hack computers now= Cade hacking the drones computer.
    7. People looking up at a massive ship= lockdowns ship over Chicago
    8. Hiding in this smoke stack= ratchet
    9. big ass silver hasmat suit is hot as shit, just saying= me in the hazmat suit melting ratchets head ;) 


    Anyone else care to share stuff they seen or think they seen or share your time as an Extra in he movie?
     
  2. tonyformer

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    Yes you did lol
     
  3. no fate

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    The flying drones on Lockdown's ship are the same as the one from DOTM that Sam and Epps use to talk to the military.
     
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    I'm now looking forward to the Blu-ray release to get a better look at the creatures in Lockdown's ship.
     
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    What's the big deal with Autobots killing humans (or not killing humans)? One would think killing other Cybertronians would be the ethical quandary. Killing meatsacks should be easy, especially when they're being a bunch a-holes.
     
  6. tonyformer

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    Which just shows that they are from the time of when the war took place on Cybertron. So the Ship and the Dinobots may actually not be as old as the first Primes.
     
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    Have you seen the movie yet? If not, you'll completely understand why ratchet shoots humans. He was begging them to stop. He said he was a medical officer and their friend, an Autobot. He's asked why he's running then if he's a friend. And Ratchet explains that he revived OPs message to hide, that the humans have turned on them. And they continue to shoot him, he's trying to get away and says "what's wrong with you humans?" And starts firing back to protect himself. I don't blame him one bit.
     
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    There are also lots of organic type creatures and bio-mechanical ones too.
     
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    Also, Attinger confirms there are "less than a dozen Cons" still in hiding. And has 2 decks of cards, one Autobot deck and one Con deck. Someone needs to try and see if any of the other Bot cards do not have Xs over them, meaning they are dead. Might be a hint at some of them still being alive and in hiding.
     
  10. Lord Person

    Lord Person housequake!

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    Wait, were you in the movie ?????!!!!!
     
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    Noideaforaname Pico, let's go up to Zuma

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    Sure were a lot of recycled assets...

    I noticed the rally car appeared to be driver-less at first, immediately thought "transformer" and wondered if he was friend or foe. Then Shane shows up and, well...
    Now that you mention it there were quite a few odd hints at it supposed to being a TF.
     
  12. SkyfiRe71

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    Kid you not, I caught all of these except number 5. You and I think very much alike haha
     
  13. tonyformer

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    Yes, was in 3 scenes.

    1. Driving my wife's black SUV that is on the overpass that spins out when the Galvatron/Stinger chase scene is show and Galvatron doesn't follow commands.

    2. In KSI when Joshua is explaining how the transformeum works, I walk by for a second behind the glass in a big silver hazmat suit.

    3. Again in the hazmat suit melting Ratchets head lol.
     
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    You killed Ratchet !!!!! :lol 
     
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    I thought Lockdown shot Ratchet while he was talking and he thought the humans shot him?
     
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    Anyone notice that those things pulling Optimus around on Lockdown's ship kinda looked like G1 Roller?

    Lucky, but that is really neat though.
     
  17. tonyformer

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    The humans shot ratchet a lot and he was protecting himself. Yeah lockdown shot him too, but at that point, I don't think Ratchet cared who was shooting him anymore. He was fighting for his life. Probably the most emotion I have seen out of him in 4 movies lol.
     
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    My wife and brother are giving me shit about it too lol. When doing that scene, I had no idea it was ratchets head. We were told to just "pretend to be melting an artifact". So it wasn't until I saw the movie for the first time that I even knew it was Ratchets head. I just dropped my head in the theater and my brother punched me hard as shit in my arm lol. Called me an Autobot hater lol.
     
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    I knew you had part in it! Lucky !