The UK Toy Discussion

Discussion in 'Transformers Toy Discussion' started by Boardwise, Feb 23, 2011.

  1. Napalm

    Napalm Drinking About Robots TFW2005 Supporter

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    Me: 'So what line is this, Hasbro?'

    Hasbro: 'Yes.'

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    RoboW4rrior298 Maximum blast!

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    Kinda pissed about this one really, not to mention I don’t really get why they’re being put in Buzzworthy Bumblebee either. Cliffjumper I can maybe understand since in most continuities he’s just a red Bumblebee and that’s being played off of.

    Then again, like the schmuck I am I’m going to be swapping these out for my Earthrise and Studio Series versions if I can.
     
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  3. Ottertron

    Ottertron Moon-faced assassin of joy

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    I'm seething with jealousy over your Fin Fang Foom. C'mon Marvel Legends, we need a new one - with purple pants intact - stat!

    You gotta be fuckin' KIDDING.

    I believe it to be 'Iron Mandem'
     
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  4. motorthing

    motorthing Just the Toys Ma'am

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    Pretty unlikely that any other Toymaker on the Planet - including Mattel - would be able to afford (or outbid Hasbro) the License at this point. Lego could, but they do not compete on like for like product so they don't need to - they have the construction toys license sown up.

    And as far as various publicly available bits of info show - the Marvel License is currently Hasbro's "biggest" money spinner in terms of Action Figures, this tends to be born out by the sheer weight of Legends product this year verses Black Series/Vintage.

    The writing has been on the wall for a while now, just not for rabid You-tubers to read but everyone else too - Star Wars isn't the license to print money it used to be, and it'll take several more Mandalorian-level hits to even bring it back to where it was pre-Mouse.

    I've put in a deposit for MP-Trainbot 1. The Slope of Slip has been engaged.
     
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    As someone who enjoys things being linked, I’ve given this a bit of thought. It helps make sense of things perhaps?

    Also, I think that in the 80’s/90’s, it was often the tiniest little thing - in the X-Men cartoon, Black Panther’s cameo is incredibly brief. I always enjoyed the fact that in Thunderbirds, Gordon is described as having trained with WASP (linking it to Stingray).

    Edit: I appreciate that neither of those examples are random!

    There is something strangely satisfying about collecting identical objects but in different colours, seekers, Yoshis, Mortal Kombat ninjas, Power Rangers, Iron Man armours, it goes on.

    I’ve got three different armouries, 3.75”, 6” and Lego. The 3.75” includes comic armours as well as MCU, and the 6” is barely an armoury at all since it’s just a collection of figures (I’m still hoping the UK gets the ToyBox set at some point).

    The lack of a Mark IV Lego armour keeps me awake at night…….
     
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    If Buzzworthy Kup is BB 86.02 (previously SS 86.02) and Cliffy is BB 86.13 - does that mean that Cliffjumper is also coming out in the SS 86 line? 86.13 is the next release number in that series.

    Or will they skip 86.13 in the SS line?

    What a farce for those trying to collect the boxed figures.
     
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  7. CZ Hazard

    CZ Hazard Toy Connections

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    It makes sense that Marvel is their biggest line these days, but I stand by my larger point that screwing up a Haslab for a license is more embarrassing and risky for business than screwing up their own property. They are in no danger of losing their own properties, but Disney has a strong toy relationship with Mattel which stretches back 60 years and well pre-dates Hasbro and Star Wars, or Hasbro and Marvel. Lucas and Marvel don't drive the bus, the mouse does, I'm surprised they didn't lose the license in the same way Dark Horse did after 20 strong years.
     
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  8. motorthing

    motorthing Just the Toys Ma'am

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    I agree with your main point, but I'll put forward a sidebar I was thinking about yesterday prompted by @Seeaich 's points yesterday - when the License is due for re-upping Hasbro are NOT going to want to renew on the extremely expensive terms they last agreed to - the License just doesn't make as much as it did, so having a few examples of "failure" in their locker - even with perceptions of mismanagement, aren't going to hurt their position at all.

    The Rancor not being giving the same deadline extension that Unicron did (an internal property) to meet at least the minimum - and it was only a few hundreds off - means there's something going on there.

    And while the Mouse may indeed be in the driving seat at all times, its shareholders that seem to have an extraordinary level of backseat autonomy at present and if there aren't any other natural suitors when the time comes, they are going to demand their dividend and screw everything else.

    The situation is getting similarly dicey for the Disney Board on their Star Wars theme parks.....the money just isn't there anymore.
     
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    Does anyone have the first (ROTF) SS Optimus (with the darker colours and the arm blades) up for sale for a reasonable price?
     
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    ...& Knuckles!

    Those sorts of examples are the best kind of fan theories IMO, ones which are plausible and consistent with the source material and don't require huge logical leaps or ignoring canon of the source materials. Your Thunderbird example for er example I remember the tie-in comics took it further and had some straight up crossovers between Thunderbirds, Stingray and Captain Scarlet :D 
    Granted in the TV series it also helped as it let them re-use models between shows.

    And I forgot the Black Panther one but I do remember enjoying how X-Men and Spider-man had some crossovers, most notably in Spider-man's take on Secret Wars Storm and some other X-Men were summoned as heroes on Spidey's team and they had the designs and voice actors from the X-Men series by the same studio :) 

    I must admit I also have a fondness for plausible shared universe theories for some directors but again it has to be plausible.

    That said some of the crackpot theories can be amusing, if implausible :lol 
     
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    JSpaced10 Not Predacon: PREDAKING!

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    You bunch of enabling b... ended up getting the main "Shang-Chi" characters, except for Death Dealer. I found a couple in the BAF-less, (not many apart from Katy and Xialing) but the postage was more expensive than buying all three on IDT brand new... but yes, I have four Shang-Chi figures on the way, which is a step up from "ooh, the Awkafina one includes Morris! How cute!"

    Glad you're taking a stand. I'm at breaking point at work too, but for totally different reasons. When I joined, there was 4 of us, looking after one school, but the longest-serving tech had also gone for the job I got, so he left for something else.

    OKIE-DOKE, one manager, one senior tech, we can handle this.

    Five years on, one school is now: one high school (1400+users), one primary school (400+ users), one county-wide training facility (best guess 200+ users), one multi-academy trust (incorporating another three schools with their own support, but a truck load of other support), on training school facility (different to the other facility, somehow) which is adding users at a rate of knots.

    We've found the money to build TWO extensions/ new buildings since I joined and yet somehow we're still one manager, one senior tech and one junior tech. They keep having bright ideas and assuming we're going to somehow bear the weight of it all. "We built three new offices." "Cool, where's the socket for the computer?" "The what now?" "Where's my budget for buying three new computers, licenses, and accessories?" "The huh?"

    Add to that the attitude I'm getting from a member of staff who literally thinks he's above the support teams and that we were his department's personal gophers, to the point where he doesn't deign to respond to my requests for more information and I'm ready to explode at the next person who asks the same question for the millionth time.

    That's just awesome! Love the way they've redone the CW mould!

    Welcome to the world of collecting Dr. Who DVDs where they chose a crap design theme to begin with, but keep monkeying with it and releasing box-sets of non-consecutive stories, so your shelf never looks quite right.
     
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    So long as they all aren't having a cheese and wine party it's alright.
     
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    Another 'blast from the past' email, IDT have sent the balance invoices for Neca's Homelander and Starlight figures.

    Don't tell me I'm finally going to own the heroes of the VCU.
     
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    @Primacron & Xaran Alamas,
    I could buy it with Thunderbirds & Stingray as they were both Gerry Anderson shows and the cameos in the X-Men cartoon worked well enough because it was a Marvel cartoon so it made sense for other Marvel characters outside of the X-Men to appear, it's the real straw clutching such as the example with Sean Connery's character in The Rock actually being James Bond I don't get.

    Fair enough if that's what someone wants to do to make their YouTube content or whatever but I tend to take things at face value and don't over analyse it in the hope of finding hidden meanings or links to other things, to me it's the modern version of playing records backwards.

    Sometimes I'll see something pop up on YouTube when it's the early hours of the morning and I can't sleep and it can be amusing but most of the time my reaction is,
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    EDIT,
    Cliffjumper repaint has blue windows, so I'll stick with the first one. Not a fan of windows that're blue or other colours as a toon accuracy thing because it never looks good ,even when Newage use metallic tones.

    I don't know how Kup differs from the prior release as I didn't look too closely at it. The mould is OK but the Takara version of the TR mould fills that gap.
     
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  15. Brum Bot

    Brum Bot You’re an idiot Starscream

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    Cheeky :oops: 
     
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    So here's my theory. There's a higher up at Hasbro that keeps wanting really specific toys. Like they needed a Fangry for their collection, liked the idea of a Nemesis Primal and really wanted their SS86 Kup to have that busted chest from the movie.

    But getting customs done would cost them personally so they've gone and started this line as a way to commission the toys that they personally want.

    And as long as it sells, we get to keep getting this person's mad wish list of toys. Personally I'm hoping they get really into MTMTE.
     
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  18. MyTea Boc

    MyTea Boc Cannot rest until we have a bus-former.

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    Enjoy Infinite dude.
     
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  19. motorthing

    motorthing Just the Toys Ma'am

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    The Rainmakers have shipped from Star Action! UK Stock! Excite!!!
     
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    Ectotron still hsn't turned up from kapow, so email fired off. For someone that was so quick out the door, it's dissapointing he went AWOL.


    Also, seem to have lost all power now. Blegh, hope this passes.


    The Cybertron rewatch continues. About 8 episodes left now. Tis a damn fine show. Not perfect, but pretty much captures everything I want from a tf show. Hasbro can keep all the uber serious grimdark edgy stuff of the past 5 to 10 years, I'll take the fun, adventurous, self piss taking but yet also super serious threat levels with the best starscream ever put to screen.
     
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