Discussion in 'Transformers Toy Discussion' started by Boardwise, Feb 23, 2011.
Roddy has always felt a little shoehorned in IMO, and I'd argue the movie didn't really help!
Cheers, Rob. Appreciate it!
In many respects, I'm the wrong person to ask why Rodimus isn't as good as Optimus. I honestly think the apathy towards Rodimus is a gut level reaction to the cynicism around clearing the cast for the '86 releases. I think it was naïve and arrogant to think that 'the kids' wouldn't feel at all manipulated, and Hot Rod/Rodimus is the obvious figurehead for that resentment, with his ascent to leadership feeling unearned.
The UK comics had a tricky task, as they couldn't really use Rodimus in Target:2006. I think this led to many a TF:UK'er having a bigger place in their hearts for Magnus, having lived through his 'against all odds' struggle with Galvatron.
Me? I genuinely liked Rodimus. I've always got time for a well intentioned fuck up.
New Thunderclash and Minerva toys please!
All of the yes.
Glad to see her back... Didn't expect it would be as a wrecker mind you. Makes me think these really aren't your father's wreckers.
Love the new Red alert shots beautiful.
Listening to the latest podcast. Lol'ed when you said you used your school suspension to watch beast wars.
.... Urge to be smutty.... Resisted.
Great review man. Definitely agree on all points.
Big up to @Knightdramon for sending me his Rotorstorm. I too am after the z3 missile pods.
Surely the chromedome mold?
I can actually HEAR this picture.
"Iron birds of fortune
"Adrift above the skies"
Ah look at him! He's so cool. I love it and hate you. (Not really, just my jealousy showing.)
I'm sorry to torture you like that Brian. I know this can't have been easy for you.
And thank you! I'm sort of left wondering who's left to get really, really hyped about now? Blaster and Nightbeat are definitely ones I'm eagerly anticipating, and I'd really like to see updates for Skids and Gears. But beyond that?
Oh! Yeah! Emirate Xaaron. STAT!
I prefer Hot Rod/Rodimus to Rodimus PRIME. But he was an decent leader in the maelstrom of WTFuckery that Season 3 was. I mean anyone who can get through shit like Carnage in CMinor with their sanity intact gets my vote.
I just prefer him being his own thing.
I agree that the coke-fuelled* sociopathic shelf-clearing for shiny, NEW characters that you kids will love just like the old guys was the main issue with moving media Rodders. It totally demonstrated that the suits did not understand the full mechanics of the Transformers success. There's no prior connection or affection for Hot Rod to counterbalance "That brash M*********** just got my Space Dad KILLED!?!", on comes the hatred.
There's an alternate universe out there where someone realised that, and Hot Rod got lightly retooled as an adolescent Bumblebee struggling with redefining himself as he moves into TF adulthood from his G1 'Toon "kid brother" phase. Sure, there'd still be some annoyed that "Bombus Prime got OP killed" BUT the affection for character is there for him to get away with such a big mistake (barring the hardcore 'Bee Haters).
(Of course that means it's Hound on Moonbase 2 with Spike instead, hints of a break in the friendship, more emotional punch with a smidge of reconciliation when the lads are rescued at the end.)
Now, of course, that course seems to have perhaps been a smidge over-corrected!
I think part of the comics issue is they had to introduce the TFTM core heroes but also had to keep 'em in Early Film status stasis to not too explicitly contradict the movie, so our Trio are a pre-Simpsons Leonard Nimoy cameo, all exposition, with a smidge of Deus Ex to wrap everything up.
* = Allegedly
Love the osko of powerglide
Have you ever ordered a figure based on a nagging feeling you should? Like even I can't think of a proper reason for a duplicate Beastman figure but something told me to order it just in case.
I get the same feeling in DIY aisles, 'hmmm, something's telling me I might need that'. And I usually buy it because there's that 'Aha!' feeling 6 months later
My conundrum I think is that I was never beholden to one particular media of Transformers - loved the cartoon (via VHS) and the comic, but always felt less animosity towards comic Rodimus as his more aggressive traits felt like they had more layers than his ‘reluctant leader’ schtick in the toon.
If anything, in Return of Optimus Prime, I think red plague Rodimus was closer to his comic version/ a more interesting version.
I love Hot Rod / Rodimus. TFTM 86 is my G1, and as I wasn't really exposed to season 3 and the comics as a kid, there was no doubt in my mind that Rodimus would go on to be a natural leader and worthy successor.
Early on in my days of becoming part of the modern internet fandom, much like Jar Jar it was cool to rag on Rodimus as the worst thing ever and I got swept up in that (yup, I don't mind Jar Jar now), but I will now happily Stan for Hot Rod and Rodimus. He's a great character and an iconic design.
Kingdom Red Alert for me, although I'm still fighting the urge to order him for 26 quid delivered, bit steep.
Ahh, the G1 Rodimus Debate.
I think its much simpler than many of the nuances.
By late 86 through to early 87 Transformers was peaking then already on their way out in popularity. Thus like many post 86 characters he simply never established physically or emotionally. For most he was just a figure in a toy box on the shelves. He never appeared in the terrestrial cartoon either where it stopped its run and didn't air the later seasons iirc.
Not many saw the movie. Even by then kids at school weren't as intetested in transformers. I never knew anyone into the comics, I wasn't. Not just that but kids didn't have the same quantum of toys on average in the 80s.
Toy fashions swung super quickly in the 80s. For those that rememeber I posted the argos catalogue scans recently showing how quickly trends moved at that time.
I loved Rodimus, the movie had a profound impact on me. However beyond the movie and the Rodimus/Galvatron toys there was nothing to support and create the lore like Optimus and Megatron had established.
It’s dropped below 25C in here for the first time in like a week, absolute heaven.
Also I like Hot Rod personally but he was always going to be met with backlash. A character nobody had ever seen before is suddenly made leader, AND you killed Optimus Prime? Yeah people are gonna be upset lol
My cosmic cube turned up!
I reckon it's just Ultron to go then that's the 'main' villains done.
Oh, and does anyone need a Xemnu head?!
Emirate xaaron would be great, even from Red or super7 (wily 'ol buzzard was too lazy to transform).
If only my list was as short as gears and skids. Mine ranges from thundering, to Jackpot and to bus formers we never got, nor never will.
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