The UK Toy Discussion

Discussion in 'Transformers Toy Discussion' started by Boardwise, Feb 23, 2011.

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    I was just gonna go with him having Collins voice Buuuuuuuuuut might I suggest in an IDW nod that Doyle was Prowl because copper and soldier duo, Innit? Also IIRC Bodie had actually done some merc work in Africa Post-SAS/Pre-CI5 to boot? Roadbuster was their Ford Capri, natch.

    I really need to see if the Network Blurays have come down a bit!
     
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    Ach, but Doyle was too sweet a guy to even be TF:UK Prowl (nevermind the overdone IDW one). I like Blaster because he's got that laid back, take it easy vibe that Doyle had, and obviously I like the synchronicity of them both remaining on Cybertron after the Ark launch. All the Ark Crew were in late 70's/early 80's American tv programmes, so Prowl is probably...TJ Hooker!
    But to each their own absurdly niche headcannon!
     
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    I'd forgotten how fantastical a concept they were, the very notion of a Liberal Copper!
     
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    Is Prime Hannibal Smith? Is Ratchet Quincy? Who's Automan?

    I know, right? It was a simpler time!
     
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    How perceptions change.

    1984 Police car Transformer - good guy
    2007 Police car Transformer- bad guy
     
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    I failed to give this inspired idea the credit it deserved. I hope this post goes some way to rectifying that.

    A.C.A.B.

    Is Whirl Airwolf or Blue Thunder?
     
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    I thought I'd really twist their melons with a bit of pet based escalation of the trilogy, some are thinking it's happening.
     
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    Yes, I saw your work there. I think you wounded some minds. Needless to say, I approved.
     
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    Isn't he Howlin' Mad Murdoch?
     
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    I've known some great cops, it's a shitty job with very little support. In the US only one state bothers to teach de-escalation techniques so it's no wonder things are bad over there, especially when you combine that with inbred exceptionalism. Bad combination.

    I applied myself, did well on the paperwork, fluffed the first 8 hour assessment day and then the global financial crisis happened and Kent police lost all their money which was in Iceland. Recruiting process was frozen. Pretty happy, it wouldn't have been right for me.
     
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    It was getting way too over wrought and mega serious about follies. Too much dictatorial nonsense.
     
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    Skywarp as Miss Popoff?
     
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    Just got this guy for £35 delivered. Weej. 20191016_144059.jpg
     
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    Can we get Douglas a medal, please?
     
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    The Underbase Saga may have been Bob Budianski's coup de grace during his long tenure on the G1 Marvel comic, but for my money nothing sums up his contribution quite like Ratbat. This was a character who managed to rise to the highest office not by scheming, backstabbing or brute force, but by simply being good at his job. That alone would make him unique among his peers, but to do all this while being a mere Soundwave accessory? That's the ultimate achievement.

    I doubt there was ever any single person who had more power over Transformers fiction than Budiansky. As well as being the primary writer for the American end of the comic for the lion's share of its run, it was Budiansky who wrote all the original bios for the characters in the early days, bios that would largely influence the cartoon as well (although there are notable deviations, hello Shockwave). So when you discovered that that extra special new toy you got for Christmas was a stone-cold badass or a complete bellend, that was Budiansky.

    And Ratbat? Ooooh, Ratbat. He could have been a spy like Ravage or cannon fodder like Rumble, but nope, Bob had bigger plans for Ratbat. Ratbat was to become... an accountant. Seriously, he was in charge of monitoring fuel consumption and keeping the Decepticons efficient. That alone gives a character a tremendous amount of power, in that they can decide who gets first dibs on the energon supply and who loses out. And while this power didn't necessarily give Ratbat authority at first, it turns out all he needed to do was just wait for everyone else to screw up enough that he became in charge by default. It's quite brilliant to watch, as he never actually needs to depose Shockwave, just hang around being efficient enough that everyone just starts taking orders from him instead, until Shockwave arses up enough to get himself killed. And for good measure, Ratbat's record as leader is one of the most effective in Transformers history. And he weaponised a car wash.

    No wonder Tony Blair was so worried about Gordon Brown.

    So this is the Fall of Cybertron Ratbat toy, probably the simplest thing that I have in my collection. All spring-loaded automorph, he turns from a chunky disc thing into... I guess you could charitably call it a bat. It certainly has a bat's head, but being a retool from Laserbeak he mostly just looks like a generic flying thingy. This is hardly a problem because... whisper it with me... G1 Ratbat never looked much like a bat either. Still, dangle him down from any extraneous light fitting, tree branch or giant robot dinosaur arm, and he looks suitably sinister. The transformation only really involves turning the wings around 180 degrees and folding everything up, but the real fun comes from transforming him back. Just drop it bottom down onto a flat surface and the automorph will kerboing him into bat mode in a single ridiculous flip. Hours of fun!

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    So why this Ratbat? I have a Masterpiece version as well, albeit a knockoff because, ha, buying a whole new MP Soundwave in black just for Rattlebattle? Nope nope nope. Somehow the simplicity of FOC Ratbat just makes him all the more charming, and there really isn't much else like him in my collection. I don't have FOC Soundwave to carry him around in, so Ratbat just gets to be his own guy. Fitting for the unsung champion of the Decepticon leadership. The MP RattusMcBattus is a direct descendent of his G1 self, only now with a bit more complexity, no partsforming and a better looking head. Still doesn't look that much like a bat, but at least he can disguise himself as a mini-cassette, even if my KO version doesn't lock together all that well. Considering MP Soundwave's tape deck likes to gum up even with proper mini-cassettes, I'm sure as hell not going to risk jamming it up for good with Splatbat.

    Neither of these is exactly a prestige item, despite the hoops you have to jump through to get a legit MP Ratbat. They both just turn into shapes, and the upcoming Siege micromaster version is no different, even though he's now too small to ever be an actual thing. I've always liked the look of the Takara Legends version retooled from Scourge and representing his senator days in the IDW stories, but... it's not the same. Or perhaps it lessens the impact of having a silly little purple bat guy becoming the one in charge. Hell, it's like putting a Mouser in charge of the Foot Clan, or Stinky in charge of Moomin Valley.

    I like Ratbat. I like him for being such a nerd. I like him because he's he leader the Decepticons need, but don't deserve, and certainly would never ask for. I like him because he proves there's still room for base competence in the bad guy ranks. I like him especially because the toy could have been relegated to being another cannon-fodder nobody who occasionally gets barfed out of Soundwave's chest (pretty much his entire role in the cartoon) but, on a whim by Bob Budiansky became one of the most powerful and dangerous members of the Decepticon hierarchy, and eventually, their leader. Not bad for a guy without hands.

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    Ironhide as Mr Meaker,
    Blurr as Timothy Claypole
    Trypticon as Dobbin
     
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    Belatedly recognising this as incontrovertible, 100% accurate, truth.

    <3
     
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    That would be triffic. Bit short ATM but I'll give you a shout when I have some money, thanks mate! :D 

    I still think they could have gotten a nice chunky Straxus out of the mold, using Generations Darkmount as a base.

    DON'T GO INTO THE UNDERBASE!
     
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    Can we have a SG Ratbat based on Gordon Brown, who sells off the entire energon supply to the Autobots while it's at a record low?
     
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