The Seeds

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  1. Wheeljack30

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    In AOE, the Autobots faced another task and that's to get the seed in safe keeping and away from Galvatron. But the thing is that I am confused is yes I know in TF1 07 Megatron wanted the Cube to create a new army and take over, in ROTF Megatron helped The Fallen to activate the Harvester to claim the suns energy and in DOTM he helped Sentintel to active the Pillars to bring Cybertron home. Now with all those events happening, why didn't he go after the seeds in the first place, since Megatron is Galvatron and he knew about the seeds.

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    Don't even go there bro. It's just Kruger shitting on the continuity again.
     
  3. Omega Charge

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    Wait, how would Megatron know about the seeds a thousand years ago, before he chased the Allspark to Earth?
     
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    He probably didn't have access to one until he was made aware of the humans' deal with Lockdown. It's possible that he might not have even known that they existed until this information was made available to him.
     
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    You could make up a million reasons why not. Here, I'll throw out a few at random.

    Megatron had no way to get to Lockdown before, only the mysterious Creators even Optimus Prime can't remember have them, when Megatron had a soul (corrupt as it was) he didn't think it a valid option but now that he doesn't he's a-okay with it, or the writers simply hadn't thought of this particular MacGuffin yet, as is the case with just about every new entry in a tv show, book series, or film line.

    No rocket science to it.
     
  6. SPLIT LIP

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    Because they never thought they'd make it to four movies.

    *Sigh* I guess in-movie you could fudge it that since the Seed only creates the matter, it's not very useful for raising an army if there's no one to turn that matter into robots and give them life.

    I mean, really Galvatron just wanted it because it was essentially a nuke. He never once expressed interest in using it for anything other than killing scads of humans.
     
  7. moylan55

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    but the did the humans tell Galvatron about the seed or did Galvatron manipulate the humans into acquiring the Seed? I've been thinking the later, but how would he even know about it
     
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    Seeds create Transformium that turns organic into metal. Technically Megatron still needed Allspark to give life.
     
  9. tonyformer

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    My head hurts trying to put together the history of movies that are not meant to be anything resembling a history lol. This "every movie is a stand alone" BS needs to stop!
     
  10. tonyformer

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    Not anymore lol. If you haven't noticed, Megs can now bring stuff to life himself lol.
     
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    I think he didn't knew about it because then he should have known he had creators.But Prime knew their creators cyberformed thousands of planets to make them.Lockdown told him or what?As for Galvatron I think he heard humans speaking about it
     
  12. tonyformer

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    brains said Megs was after the Seed and was manipulating the humans to get the Seed.
     
  13. SPLIT LIP

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    Galvatron, or Megatron's head, knew everything they were doing, being concious if decapitated. He was the one who manipulated them into making him a body in the first place.
     
  14. moylan55

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    he did didn't he, so Megs must know a lot more than Prime about their history
     
  15. uruseiranma

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    I'd think of it like TF:Animated, where Megatron was constantly listening in on what Sumdak was doing, and most likely in the AOE world, Megatron/Galvatron overheard Joyce talking about the Seed, maybe when he was wandering around the facility.
     
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    Now most think that the Seeds are a stupid idea, but remember they are just a weponized version of this:

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  17. tonyformer

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    Again, don't over think it. You are right, according to past movies, Megs didn't know about the Seed and the Creators. But in this movie its written as if he knew all along. Just like he knew all along in ROTF that he had a plan with Sentinel to bring cybertron to Earth and have a human workforce rebuild it. OH WAIT! No he didn't known that, because in ROTF he was going to blow up our Sun for Energon and in turn kill the Earth. See what I did there?

    The only thing these movies have in common is that some of the TFs and humans get dragged into a new story that conterdicts the past story and or completely makes the past story useless.
     
  18. SPLIT LIP

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    It's not "most likely" that's how the movie explained it.

    The humans make a series of deals to get the seed, Megatron's head hears about this deal, starts filtering information to get the humans to make him a new body so he can be reborn and kill them all.
     
  19. uruseiranma

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    As well, it was shown that Megatron was somehow breeding little 'insecticon fly-spys.' Most likely, those things were floating around KSI, feeding him info on what the humans were doing.
     
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    Megatron didn't have to know about the existence of the Seeds before his death in DOTM.

    The Creators came to Lockdown and hired him to get Optimus. Perhaps they give him a seed to help with that very purpose as a negotiation tool, perhaps they gave him a bunch as his payment for his services, or perhaps he managed to steal one. When Lockdown gets to Earth he desires human help for collecting Optimus, and when he finds that they're looking for sources of Transformium, he suggests the deal (Seed for Optimus).

    Megatron is never even aware of the Seeds' existence until after the deal is made, when his ever-observant head in the KSI lab probably picked up mention of it.

    Unless I missed something important.