The scale conundrum

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  1. fake

    fake Return to Innocence

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    One of my peeves against collecting many of the TFs is the different scales that some figures come in. I may like the figure and would like to pair him with another figure, but one is a deluxe and one is a voyager, so they look out of place. Has TR managed to solve this somehow?
     
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    heltskelt Well-Known Member

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    Not at all. Blaster's alt mode is as big as a truck. Ravage's jet mode is much smaller than the upcoming Prime's. The upcoming Megatron's tank mode is much bigger than Rumble's and smaller than Soundwave's alt mode... which is larger than a space shuttle.

    The scale issue has only kept me from the Leader Seekers. I like the look, but I finally have Aerialbots that are the same size as seekers. I'm not about to throw all that off.
     
  3. GoldbugTM2

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    Well Galvatron is nice and big, so there's that. Despite being tape decks, both Blaster and Soundwave have generally been rather large bots. I don't like how TR Soundwave is a repaint of TR Blaster and thus transforms into a boom box. Probably won't bother with him. Also not big on them, (and PM Optimus), having city modes but not a big deal. I still don't get why they made the Decepticon jets as leader class. The guys that should be big are big, (although TR Metroplex is still too big. ;)  ) I'm fine with the scales thus far. (Except Metroplex.)
    Um, I think you have your bots confused. Ravage and Rumble are tape bots, I should hope they're much smaller than Optimus and Megatron in every way shape and form.
     
  4. bellpeppers

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    I don't worry about scale. I primary collect Deluxes- with a few exceptions.
    I have Voy Blaster, and after seeing Leader Blaster, I may pass. Too big. I passed on the Leader Seekers and Leader Megatron.
    I've been known to pass on figures due to size issues.
     
  5. tikgnat

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    TR Blaster and Soundwave are perfectly in scale... in base mode. Muhuhahaha!

    Seriously though, scale hasn't exactly been a priority with TF's... like ever.
     
  6. heltskelt

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    [QUOTE="GoldbugTM2, post: 13956085, member: 68414

    Um, I think you have your bots confused. Ravage and Rumble are tape bots, I should hope they're much smaller than Optimus and Megatron in every way shape and form.[/QUOTE]

    I was clearly referring to their alt modes. Rumble's tank mode is much smaller than Megatron's. This also applies to Ravage's jet mode, which is much smaller than Megatron as a tank. Of course Rumble and Ravage always should be much smaller than Megatron, but their alt modes are still out of scale with each other. The OP didn't specify whether he meant scales in alt or robot modes.
     
  7. CountDrunkula

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    [wiseoldmanvoice]Hear me, young geeklings, and stop! Stop this talk of "scale" amongst transforming toys, for that road is paved with madness, and it can lead only to pain, chaos and death![/wiseoldmanvoice]

    ;) 
     
  8. Megasquared

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    This is why we don't talk about scale in Transformers.

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  9. DOTM Bumblebee

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    Honestly, I'd say if you're that concerned about scale, go for Leader Class for Megatron, Ultra Magnus, the Seekers, and Jetfire, Voyager Class for Prime and Motormaster, Deluxe Class for any and all cars, and ignore Soundwave + cassettes ('til they make one who's a vehicle) and any combiner other than Menasor (and maybe Devastator).

    Me, though, I'm limited on money and will gladly accept an F-22 Raptor that's the same size as a Chevy Camaro if they're both good enough figures.
     
  10. WishfulThinking

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    I think this line up would be most appropriate for scale. And the cool thing is you have options for most of these.

    *-denotes those that are not available in CHUG at this size

    Autobots
    Leader:
    Jetfire

    Voyager:
    Optimus Prime
    Grimlock (and the rest of the Dinobots*)
    Blaster
    Perceptor*

    Deluxe:
    Autobot Cars
    Jumpstarters*
    Omnibots*

    Scouts:
    Minicars
    Recordibots
    Powerdashers*

    Decepticons
    Leader:
    Megatron (tank)
    Seekers

    Voyager:
    Soundwave
    Shockwave

    Deluxe:
    Reflector*
    Deluxe Insecticons*
    Battlechargers

    Scouts:
    Insecticons
    Recordicons
     
  11. usernamedustin

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    I don't understand why scale still bothers people. Scale has never been accurate for any transformers. I guess you could collect alternators. They are in scale with each other.
     
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    When I was working on a CHUG collection, scale did bother me because I had an idea of what the size of each character should be in relation to the other characters. But I gave up on a CHUG collection a while ago. The new collection I'm currently working on is leader-class CW/TR collection. I think HasTak have chosen really good characters for the leader class size since the start of CW. I think they pose well together. BUT if we got a leader class Bumblebee or some other odd choice, I would not be picking those up. It has to make sense, if you know what I mean.
     
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    As someone who is new to Transformers, you all speak in this weird code that I don't know, and it makes buying toys impossible.

    "That's a cool toy. How big is it?"

    "It's a Voyager"

    "?????WTF!!!! Can you just say how tall it is in inches please?"
     
  14. Smitty.1981

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    TR has most of the bots in the right size class. Vehicle mode sceal is and forever shall be fucked up.
     
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    I just like the cars and seekers to be deluxe. I hate scouts and legends for the most part. I like voyager and leader for larger characters like Op and Megatron, but I hate leader seekers
     
  16. Sy-Rein

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    I just try to get a relatively close scale in bot mode. Alt modes will never be in scale so I've simply given up on alt mode scale. This is mostly for my Classic-verse collection but it bleeds over into other lines where there are multiple choices for particular characters such as the movie lines.
     
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    Size in inches vary from figure to figure due to nitpicky things like guns sticking up. Even if you go by length from bottom of foot to top of head, there will still be nitpicking.

    Below Deluxe (sometimes Legend) - Anything smaller than Deluxe should only be tape bots, or the little head/target/power master figures. In the G1 era the "scout" or mini car bots, (ie. Bumblebee), were really small and that was fine, but these days standard bots that small are those lame 1-step Transformers. So ignore most of these.
    Deluxe - This is your standard Transformer size. Don't settle for anything less! Hovering around 6"
    Voyager - These are slightly bigger and are usually your triple-changers and things of that nature that demand more parts than Deluxes. between 7" and 8"
    Leader - Optimus, Megatron/Galvatron, (even though TR Galvatron is only Voyager), and the standard size city bots. Another slight step up from Voyager. I have Leader Blaster and original G1 Metroplex. Metroplex still beats Blaster by a few inches. Leader figures really vary from figure to figure in size by inches. TR Blaster is a little more than 9" and there are other Leaders that can hit a full foot or better.
    Titan MASSIVE!!! aka Fortress Maximus. Metroplex is now a titan but he shouldn't be. In the over 30 years of Transformers there are only a small handful of figures this big that have ever been made. Hasbro quotes AT LEAST 2 feet tall, but these guys still vary a bit in terms of actual measurements.

    Also Hasbro tends to use different size naming conventions with different TF lines. We'll see how long this set of names lasts.
     
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  18. Tenebre

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    Scale in Transformers? Abandon all hope, ye who enter here... :eek: 

    It seems the OP is more concerned about bot mode than alt mode, which is good, because perfect alt mode scale is well nigh impossible. As far as bot mode goes, if you have a Deluxe character and a Voyager character who you don't think look good together, you can always put them in separate displays, with other characters they scale better with. Or just wait until the character gets made again. Hasbro has started repeating itself in Generations, remaking characters that got figures back in the Classics/Universe 2.0/early Generations days.
     
  19. slochmoeller

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    I wouldn't let something as silly as scale keep me from good figures.

    And I think complaints about the scale of the CW seekers, megatron, and soundwave are all silly because they scale well with each other.
     
  20. NotRamjet97

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    Eh...?

    As someone else who cares for alt mode scale, I have found myself buying more from this line than CW. All of the wave 1 deluxes work because they're all made-up vehicles, and could be any size. Same with Galvatron.

    Despite this I actually bought Blaster and have him up on my shelf. The base mode can actually scale, you can imagine the boombox as some sort of big computer if you wanted to where you but the reconnaissance bots (Rewind/Frenzy) in to play back recorded data, or as Fortress Maximus's personal music player :p 

    As for the other alt modes on the tapes. Frenzy's is so unrealistic I imagine it's like a drone tank, and Ravage/Stripes's is just...dumb.

    Astrotrain/Sentinel Prime and Powermaster Prime are so far the only ones that absolutely don't work for me.