I've been adding all the ROTF toys revealed (officially or not) to a list, using the numbers of deluxes/voyagers given at the start of the year. Something occurred to me when I added Long Haul to the Voyagers... Assuming the numbers were correct, one of the "Combiner Teams" is going to be short a member this year: Deluxe: (22/24) "Preview" Bumblebee "Preview" Soundwave Breakaway Mudflap Skids Sideswipe Sideways "Ice Cream Truck" Skids & Mudflap Wheelie Jolt Scorponok* Ravage Blaze Master Swerve Dead End "Desert" Brawl "Cannon" Bumblebee "Interrogator" Barricade Smokescreen Chromia Arcee ??? Constructicon Rampage ??? Voyager: (11/11) Starscream The Fallen Megatron Stratosphere (& Optimus Prime) "Unnamed Blackout (& Scorponok) Redeco" Optimus Prime Ironhide "Desert Tracker" Ratchet Constructicon Demolisher Constructicon Mixmaster Constructicon Long Haul Leader: (3/3) Megatron Jetfire Optimus Prime Constructicons covered: 4/6 (7?) "Bike Bots" covered: 2/3 Number of 2009 toys not seen yet: 2 Either they're only doing 5 of the 6(7?) Constructicons in 2009, or they're leaving out that last bike bot/"arcee sister"... I honestly can't see them only doing two of the three bike triplets (especially if they combine as rumored), so maybe... What if this is why they didn't give the "regular" Constructicons combination abilities? Maybe they knew they'd be short one (or two) until next year, and they didn't want to people to have to wait until 2010 for some kind of Devastator? Something to consider. * - TFWiki says that there was a Walmart listing for a ROTF Deluxe Scorponok...
Where are your #/24, #/11, #/3 numbers coming from, who said these are official release numbers? You're trying to do math with too many unknown variables.
"24 characters" so why does Bumblebee count twice (not to mention Skids and Mudflap), unless they mean 24 figures?
1. Why would they care about that? 2. If they did, wouldn't they have just pushed some of the other figs (Swerve, Dead End, Barricade, Blaze Master, etc.) back instead?
It should be clear by now that Hasbro regularly browse TF forums. Every so often, they make a decision like this, then sit back in velvet smoking jackets and laugh. Laugh until the tears run like rivers from their eyes. Then they light a cigar with a burning MISB Sunstreaker and drink a martini made with a fanboy's tears.
1. Money... Devastator is going to be one of those characters that people (especially kids) will presumably go apejive over. Given the trailers seen so far for the movie/games, he features prominently in the story and is just all around bad-arse. Not having a toy representation (outside of sub-line "Power Bots" and "Robot Heroes" versions) until at least six months after the movie's release? That's just bad business... 2. Who knows... Money perhaps? Maybe they were only budgeted for X-Number of totally new deluxe/voyager molds for the year, and there just wearn't enough to cover all the new characters?
OH I dunno maybe if they didn't fill the range up with repaints they might have room to put those characters. I mean its not like we need 3 deluxe versions of bumblebee do we?
The more I've thought about it, the more I think that the 24/11/3 was just original molds/retools, and doesn't include straight repaints. Especially with the Leader's count. I can't see them not repainting the three Leader class figures. They'll probably each get at least one repaint, if not two. The count could also be old, and they could have added to it, and didn't have the updated list ready for Toy Fair. In the end we'll just have to wait and see.
Again, I ask....official numbers? Not press release. And where are the numbers for Scounts and Legends? Which wave(s) is/are they referring to? My point is, these numbers aren't set in stone...too many variables. Anything can happen.
Here's a list I've made. It excludes all straight repaints. One way or another I think the numbers given are wrong. If not, they are just the numbers for this years figures, and we'll see figures threw at least half of next year, so they could be waiting for those later waves to release certain characters. Deluxes: 01.Pre.Bumblebee 02.Sideswipe 03.Skids 04.Mudflap 05.Ice-Cream Twins 06.Jolt 07.Breakaway 08.Blaze Master 09.Cannon Bumblebee 10.Arcee 11.Chromia 12.Bike-bot 3 13.Wheelie 14.Ratchet 15.Swerve 16.Pre.Soundwave 17.Barricade 18.Sideways 19.Dead end 20.Ravage 21.Lockdown 22. 23. 24. Voyagers: 01.Ironhide 02.Stratosphere 03.Megatron 04.Starscream 05.Fallen 06.Demolishor 07.Mixmaster 08.Long Haul 09. 10. 11. Leaders: 01.Optimus Prime 02.Jetfire 03.Megatron Three Deluxe's and three Voyagers. Scrapper, Hightower, and potentially Overload are three of the six characters that should be getting larger main line figures. Personally, I'm hoping we also get a Voyager Jetfire mold. That way I don't have to get the Leader to get a good sized figure of him. As far as I've seen, there haven't been any listings for any RotF Deluxe Scorponok figures. Only Scorponok figure we're getting that we know of is the little guy that's coming with the Voyager Blackout repaint.
I have a feeling this is also what your doing while writing your posts. ohh.....while a Steven Segal movie is playing in the background.
Well you can't really take trailers into account...who knows, maybe that part with Devastator in the trailer is the one and only scene he's in? I'm just thinking about the Bonecrusher/ Optimus scene from all the TF1 trailers, which was 99% of what Bonecrusher was actually seen in the movie.
