Okay, so after much being pounded into my head on this site... ...I have now seen the ROTF and I was pleasantly surprised. Absolutely overshadows the first film and kicks it into oblivion. Sure the dialogue was very pedestrian, but Prime got the best lines, which is good. The action was better and more importantly it was more often. The film was paced a lot better as well, though still a few scenes that ran a tad longer than required. Some scenes just needed to hit the cutting room floor: The second shot of the humping dogs was needless (at least the first gave Sam's dad a good line), Wheelie humping Mikaela's leg made me cringe and the stoned Mum scene was out of place. I guess the easiest way is to add the pros and cons, so bare with me; PROS: Adequate G1 references and homage. Decent Roster Of Bots. Decent Screen Time This Time Around For All The TFs. A Plot That Actually Interested Me. The Action Was Framed Better. The Addition Of More Colouring Helped Identify TFs much better. Didn't even notice the 'movie mistakes' all these sites are spouting about, many happen in split second scenes anyway. Talk about picky. Devastator. Finally. Would still have been good to see a clear constructicon group that interacts. Not just appear and form Devastator. I think they short changed the Constructicons by not fleshing out the concept that they are actually individuals that combine. It seemed like he was just one conciousness. CONS: Many TFs were never called by name. Unless you examined the toy packaging before hand, many remain nameless. Sideways had a strong and promising intro. He had more potential. Simple things like "Ravage Eject", "Look! Its Sideways!" or "Grindor! Assist Us!" would have helped to identify a lot of the TFs. Soundwave was underused. He played an integral role as an 'intelligence' type, but would be nice to see him in action. Soundwave's voice was, as people keep saying, like Doctor Claw and detracted from his character when all I saw was a chair with a metal glove. The T-X/Mystique clone 'pretender' was a silly idea and really could have been left out. I think the writers were watching 'Sarah Connor Chronicles' when they wrote that character to keep tabs on Sam. Too much comedy releif. This film could have benefitted from taking itself more seriously IMO. 6.5/10 In other news: Sorry, but I feel I have to say it: The famous 'Twins' issue is balarky. They may have been overused, but if this was live action and they acted that way, no-one would have a thing to say. They are no more characitured, stereotyped or anything, than the portrayals we got in the old British TV Comedies like 'Are You Being Served', 'The Goodies' or 'Monty Python' - people are too sensitive these days. Back then it was no biggie at all. Socity is more uptight now than it was then, a flipside to the usual conception. The plot wasn't bullet proof, but it was easy to follow and reminded me very much of a few G1 episodes. Thankfully, Starscream is back!