The new Batman is...

Discussion in 'Movies and Television' started by Hotshotprime43, Nov 27, 2012.

  1. Hotshotprime43

    Hotshotprime43 Well-Known Member

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    So in the Nolan-verse, he's an informal alluded-to Robin? and then in this universe he's Batman? I see a crisis coming.
     
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    ShiroPrime blargh

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    Couldn't this have been posted in the JL forum we have going?
     
  5. Ra88

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    As talented as he is, this strikes me as a horrible decision. And I'm concerned that they'll be tying Justice League into the Nolan movies, which strikes me as a particurarly stupid idea.
     
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  7. TylerMirage

    TylerMirage I vawnt my berdt.

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    Wholeheartedly agreed.
     
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    WTDylio Where is Jessica Hyde?

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    Oh god nooooo....
    Oh thank god.....oh, it's not that I don't like JGL, I think he's a fine actor, but I agree with what Ra88's saying, and when I look at him I really don't think of Batman, and considering the last Batman film, I see him as Robin :/
     
  9. Autovolt 127

    Autovolt 127 Get In The Titan, Prime!

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    Off Course it's a rumour.

    Besides my choice for next Batman is Michael Fassbender. He plays my parents are dead quite well like his Magneto.
     
  10. TylerMirage

    TylerMirage I vawnt my berdt.

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    Glad to hear it's a rumour. I'm not necessarily against re-casting actors as different characters. It happens quite a bit more than you probably realize.

    -Rebecca Romijn (X-Men/X2: X-Men United/X-Men: The Last Stand to The Punisher)
    -Idris Elba (Thor to Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance)
    -Jon Favreau (Daredevil to Iron Man/Iron Man 2)
    -Ryan Reynolds (Blade: Trinity to X-Men Origins: Wolverine)
    -Ray Stevenson (Punisher: War Zone to Thor)
    -Tim Guinee (Blade to Iron Man/Iron Man 2)
    -Sam Elliot (Hulk to Ghost Rider)
    -Chris Evans (Fantastic Four/Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer to Captain America: The First Avenger)

    Heck, it's even happened across the Marvel-to-DC divide as well. (Won't bother listing them unless you want me to.)

    But we're willing to accept that because not once did any two of the competing roles exist in the same cinematic universe. They are completely different characters in completely different worlds from different franchises. But with JGL as the new Batman? Well, as VictoryLeo said, "I see a crisis coming".

    -Is the JL movie being set in Nolan's universe? If so, then it's not really Bruce Wayne, it'd be Blake as the "new" Batman, or at least Robin. Or Nightwing or something. And then you run into the major problem of "well, it's not really Batman", not to mention something like the Justice League taking place in Nolan's "super dark serious gritty realistic down to Earth"-world, which...yeah.
    -If the JL movie is not being set in the same cinematic universe as Nolan's world, then you basically have JGL playing a character from the Batman universe right after playing a different, yet connected character from the Batman universe (like if Chris Evans' Fantastic Four took place in the same world as Chris Evans' Captain America). And the moment people see JGL as "Batman" in a JL movie, they'll think "Oh, it's taking place after TDKR/in the same world. Okay."
    -People are expecting Batman in the JL movie, so they have to establish one way or the other; Nolan's world or not. JGL in Nolan's world = Blake/Robin. JGL not in Nolan's world = Wait, so is it Blake taking up the mantle? Or is JGL just playing a completely different character even though he was in TDKR? Is it a reference to Nolan's world? Or just a coincidence?
     
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    Fassbender is your choice for every male movie role it seems.
     
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    Haloid1177 Hey, That's Pretty Good

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    Fassbender doesn't fit Bruce Wayne or Batman. Leave him out.
     
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    I wish people would stop saying Blake is Batman's sidekick. The guy is 30 in real life and Batman's not going to come back right after he faked his death. If you think about it, Robin is his legal name so it's unlikely he would use it as his superhero identity. Blake could make as good a Batman as Dick Grayson.
     
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    I think we have to see Man of Steel before saying whether or not Justice League fits with the nolanverse.
     
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    Gordon_4 The Big Engine

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    Well from what I've seen of the man's work, he's pretty fuckin' awesome and can be very diverse.

    I disagree, if we're making a more 'comic-centric' Batman, I think Fassbender would be a great Bruce Wayne; the lad has some real swagger and knows how to turn a phrase but as he showed in X-Men, can focus himself and become very frightening in the correct circumstances as befitting the Dark Knight.

    I can answer that easily: it cannot. The Nolanverse for all its successes would be ruinous as a setting for Justice League and conversely suddenly introducing the Justice League to such a well grounded universe would be cheap and really shoot all the hard work put into it in the foot.
     
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    Why?

    It's already a universe with magic hovercars, oddly selective microwaves, and giant city-nuking soccer balls.

    Bruce Wayne's story is done and told and remained "untainted" by superheroes and fantasy. I think it would be awesome to allow Justice League to gently rest in and expand on the Dark Knight universe (such as it is) without drawing attention to it. And we get cool things out of it like, well, JGL as Batman, fun cameos from Michael Caine and Gary Oldman, maybe even some villains in the League of Shadows.

    I see this as no different than the expansion of the Timmverse with Superman: the Animated Series. Which was awesome. You can't retroactively damage the Nolan films with films that simply exist in the same universe, without being thematic sequels.

    It's a risk to do this, but one I admire, and there are benefits to it as well. Hope WB doesn't get skittish after testing the water.
     
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    You sure the hell can.
     
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    Well they went through great pains to drill and drum into our heads that this was a realistic and grounded Batman and that no other superheroes existed. If they had started laying the groundwork for an expanded universe with Batman Begins, I'd agree because that one really felt like it could be a shared universe. After the went and stuck the Grit-O-Meter over 9000 with The Dark Knight however, it really became impossible without compromising the narrative integrity of what Nolan and Co. have achieved (for better or for worse) in creating the Dark Knight Saga.

    Calling the Bat a 'magic hover car' is pretty outrageous: its presented as cutting edge technology available to one of the most well funded and well run R&D companies in the world. Hell it might something that is possible to do, but in reality offers no advantage over a helicopter hence why they aren't all over the place.

    Well this is where I must put my 'stick in the mud' comic nerd hat on. The Justice League was formed by Batman (Bruce Wayne), Superman (Clark Kent) and Wonder Woman (Diana of Thymiscira) and will probably always be so. There for to suddenly try and assemble such a team with two of 'the Real McCoy' and a guy who was made as an amalgamation of three other existing characters is just going to feel wrong. Plus, why lumber the other two with a guy who has maybe 1/100,000 of the resources of the original.


    Actually this would be very different: while Batman the Animated Series was an excellent stand alone series, it never had the pretense towards realism and was sufficiently both fantastic and whimsical in tone that the expansion of the universe with World's Finest felt very natural.
     
  19. OmegaPrime22

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    If he does get chosen give the dude a chance at least wow.
     
  20. DarkEnergon22

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    The first Iron Man movie Tony was a weapons inventor that fought terrorists then for The Avengers got thrown into the mix with Mystical beings like Thor and an alien invasion.

    But can Ryan Reynolds don the Green Lantern suit and enter Nolanverse for Justice League? I would say no, but it's a better option than rebooting all these characters again.

    It's a good way to build anticipation from the masses that are basically only interested in Superman and Batman anyway, then letting them see familiar faces and settings from popular films like The Dark Knight.