Cut the X-men deeper? The Horsemen have always had friends on it. Archangel, Caliban, Wolverine...

Nothing new there.

 

Maybe this will make Gambit cool again.

 

whats a good story that i should pick up for previous apocalypse material? ive seen two age of apocalypse, are those good? anything will help...

 

I still think the best Horsemen ever were in Age of Apocalypse. Even if I can only remember two of them off the top of my head (Holocaust, Mr. Sinister).

 

was that the old or new one? has there been an ultimate AoA yet?

 

good to know...ill have to find the only one that happened then....

 

The original.

I mean, you had some very distinct changes.

1) Magneto lead the X-Men, for one.
2) Cyclops and Havok were Sinister's acolytes
3) Jean Gray and Wolverine were married
4) Wolverine had one hand
5) Angel was a supporter of Apocalypse on the outside, but inside he was loyal to the highest bidder, so to speak
6) Beast was one of Sinister's mad scientists
7) "Cable" was a creation by Mr.Sinister combining the DNA of Jean Gray and Cyclops. He only knew his name - Nate, and that his mother's last name was Gray. His best friend was Forge, who led a traveling "circus" of mutants that included Sauron.
8) X-Force was a bunch of mutants led by Gambit, who's job was to track down the M'Kraan crystal. In this world, Lady Deathstrike was the emperor of the Shi'ar.
9) Sabertooth was the "Wolverine" so to speak of the X-Men, with Wild Child being a feral beast chained up to Sabertooth.
10) Iceman was much "colder" in personality
11) Psylocke and Captain Britan (bro and sis) were in charge of the anti-Apocalypse coalition in England/Europe, who commandeered the Sentinels. They were trying to evacuate all remaining survivors out of North America, but Apocalypse was planning to destroy England in a surprise invasion that was stopped by Wolverine (working for Captain Britan and Psylocke) and his wife, Jean.

The only person who "didn't belong" was Bishop, who never "time warped" back after Legion killed Xaiver on accident. Slowly his memory returned, enough that Magneto knew that this world wasn't right. He also knew that in this other world, he and Rogue would not be together, not have a son, and that he would constantly be at ends with his best friend Xaiver.

Bishop, using the power of the M'Kraan crystal, was able to timewarp back to the moment Legion was about to accidently kill Xaiver, and instead, let Legion kill him instead. Legion absorbed all of Bishop's memories, saw what horrible future he was about to create, and if I remember correctly, either died or just zapped everyone back to the present and went in to a coma.

A few things to note - Blink, who died in the Phalanx Covenant mini-series before the Age of Apocalypse, was alive and well and an important member of the AoA X-Men.

- "Dark" Beast, as he became called, and Sugarman, some crazed mutant hitman, and Holocaust followed Nate Gray back to the original timeline due to "jumping" through the M'Kraan crystal warp.

- Nate Gray, known as "X-Man", eventually died. Without the techno-organic virus that his counterpart Cable has, Nate was never able to harness his own destructive power, and it literally killed him from the inside out. It was kind of sad, because everytime he'd use his abilities, he'd bleed more and more, eventually blacking out.