The G1-Focused Masterpiece Speculation Thread

Discussion in 'Transformers Toy Discussion' started by Superquad7, Dec 1, 2011.

  1. Hail Galvatron

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    I never cared for the idea that Ultra Magnus was a white Optimus clone under armor. I never cared for the idea that Ultra Magnus was wearing armor (IDW is the only one that made it work for me). I love the movie and the third season, to me that's Ultra Magnus... it's not armor. I never liked how Dreamwave handled the UM reveal and I remember the solicits calling it "the ultimate transformation".

    I wouldn't mind a new Ultra Magnus, but I don't think there's as much of a need for one as there was for a new Optimus. Now, if anyone from the movie needs a new Masterpiece toy, it's Rodimus Prime. I'd love to see what they could do today, and improve from the MP-9 design.

    And yes, count me in as somebody who hopes that Masterpiece Galvatron is finally coming sooner rather than later. While I do love my Fans Toys Sovereign and think it's the best option right now, after MP-44, I cannot wait to see what Takara does with Galvatron. His appearance in the movie was always my favorite character design of any Transformer. Sovereign comes extremely close, and I am happy with it. But if Takara tops it, then I am eager to upgrade.
     
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    Not Magnus but also easy enough to make into Magnus. There was never a Nemesis Prime in the cartoon either but we got one. I fully expect them to milk the mould. Hopefully at least white, black, blue and a toy varient to stand alongside mp36+ with chrome instead of white, yellow eyes and a toy shaped head with all of the toy detailing on the forearms.

    I've always fancied getting mp36+ and that'd be the push I needed.
     
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    Y'know what? I had completely forgotten about nemesis prime...

    I'd use the argument "hmmm, but this time they're going for 'toon accuracy"....but nemesis prime has been a staple in Optimus redecos, so we're DEFINITELY gonna get at least that. I'd be shocked if they didn't.

    Oh and another 2.0 I want is not only rodimus, but I want hot rod. Seriously, if they can manage to fit in most of the top half of his car mode into his legs, we won't have 'backpack rod' anymore. As well as a more accurate bot mode.
     
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    The only repaint of MP-44 that I’d seriously consider getting is a Neon Genesis Evangelion one. I loved that look on the MP-10 mold, even though I didn’t buy it.
     
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    That was a weird one haha. I was thinking...Optimus but with an EVA color scheme...correlation being...?

    If they did do an EVA MP44, I think the more slender build would fit better with that color scheme.
     
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  6. DPrime

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    I would go in for a white MP-44 w/Magnus Armor, even though I'd be annoyed, financially speaking, and it does seem rather soon. And honestly, I'd be fine if they never did one - the first MP UM is fine.

    I would much rather get a few more smaller, cheaper characters to cover the next few releases (Rattrap, Mirage, Trailbreaker/Hoist, and especially JAZZ!), and when it's time for a bigger bot, Galvatron and Rodimus V2.

    I have no idea whether an Ultra Magnus V2 is actually likely or not, though... once upon a time Takara and Hasbro were keen on repainting any Optimus mold in white and calling it a day, but I think those days are past... a white MP-44 with Armor doesn't really "save" Takara any money or design and engineering efforts... is Ultra Magnus popular and prominent enough to warrant a new release - regardless of whether it's based on MP-44 or a new all-in-one design -before Rodimus Prime and Galvatron? I want to say no, but I'm not sure.
     
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  7. Ikkstakk

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    I'm sure if they consider doing a new Ultra Magnus, doing a proper Powered Convoy as a repaint would be a primary motivator, and that would require going in the white Prime in armor direction.
     
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    That’s an interesting question. They haven’t done any triple changers yet. Would they start with Springer? I feel like they’d start with Astrotrain. But who knows?

    Do you mean MP-44? Starting with a $450 figure and presumably having to increase that for UM seems unrealistic. You can get $450 for Prime but I don’t think you can get that (or more) for Magnus.
     
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    I'm cross pollenating this from the MP -44 Thread. Big ups to Emporor Bruticus IV for his foot work and translations on this! :)  This could potentially have an impact on the line. I think it would help us if fans could take the time to answer these questions.
     
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    Where does one go to take this survey?
     
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  11. Emperor Bruticus IV

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    Much love king, couldn't have done it without your help, appreciate it.


    its located at https://www.takaratomyfans.com/

    put that web address on the proxy website's search bar : Japan Web Proxy otherwise you won't be able to load the page as its region-locked to Japan.

    Have the google translate tool installed on your web browser (I use Chrome) and it will auto-translate the page.

    You will need to input your customer ID number & the JAN number located on your MP44 sticker/packaging.. you will be redirected to the survey.

    Sing our praises good sir and make sure you request something cool to be the next MP :D 
     
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    Thank you! I’ll do it tomorrow when I have an actual computer.
     
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    I don't know that the price would increase, they'd be dropping Prime's trailer and subbing in a different one. Besides, if they want to make a new Magnus, what are their options? Going back to the drawing board on another new cab design would seem to only add to the cost.
     
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    MP-44’s trailer is complex (for a trailer), but Magnus’ armor is still wayyy more complicated. The price would still increase a little I think.
     
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    A reasonable increase would be fine with me, for the promise of getting a toy-accurate Powered Convoy out of the deal. But what's the general feeling, here? A new Magnus using MP-44 is out of the question due to costing too much?
     
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    I’d still buy him. For what you’re getting, the price would be worth it. I’d say probably a $500 msrp, with AJ lowering that to around $400.
     
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    Yeah, that too...

    Be interesting if they did it and charged LESS than MP-44... then we'd know we had been hosed just because it was Optimus and they knew they'd get away with it.
     
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  18. Emperor Bruticus IV

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    Impossible. The fandom does not want a $450 Ultra Magnus, the outrage we saw on Optimus & Unicron would pale in comparison.
    Ultra Magnus just isn't popular enough.
    He would be more expensive than MP44 as that trailer would be pretty complicated, especially if it didn't parts form.

    Powered Convoy doesn't mean enough to the majority of Transformers fans to be worth it.. Delta Magnus still being readily available shows us that.

    A hypothetical V3 Magnus would need to build on the scheme of the existing one. Use the CAD files from MP44's cab and have them as flimsy folding panels, few extra joints of articulation and a smaller mass.
    That white prime idea was never in the anime, the anime is the blueprint now.

    He's one of the greatest Autobots but he can sit about 30 releases out until we see him again
     
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    Yes, people would buy him. I would too. But that doesn't mean there'd be enough. That's a ridiculous price to ask for someone who's a b-lister at most.
     
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    Ask yourself this, regarding a V2 Magnus......

    Do We Want Buttflap-Gate 2.0? :ev: 
     
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