The G1-Focused Masterpiece Speculation Thread

Discussion in 'Transformers Toy Discussion' started by Superquad7, Dec 1, 2011.

  1. Emperor Bruticus IV

    Emperor Bruticus IV Destron

    Joined:
    May 29, 2006
    Posts:
    1,256
    News Credits:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    232
    Likes:
    +3,074
    Instagram:
    We have Megatron & a Targetmaster gun. I feel you.
    Really a shame they couldn't have kept the BW stuff separate and run parallel, its like a roulette now in terms of capturing my interest.
    Hey man, that would be incredible & would certainly put a pacifier in my inner man baby's mouth after a few disappointments.
    Wonder if the earlier Chinese forum rumors hold any weight on Ford licensing some of them.


    Change the name of the company? Ferdinand Porsche was proud of the company name as it was his own name and reflected himself. He built up alot of pride and acclaim around the brand. Why change the brand he built hard to make. Easier just to disassociate with the negative politics that were a product of the nation. Would the Porsche 911 be as iconic without that font, logo - name etc? That legendary shield crest with the Stuttgart on it is iconic. The horrors and true extent of the war didn't come to light to the general people until much later.
     
    Last edited: Mar 21, 2017
    • Like Like x 2
  2. War7Angel

    War7Angel Member

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2016
    Posts:
    21
    Trophy Points:
    47
    Likes:
    +8
    today i get Grapple mp35 and instruction is in my opinion a rumor of HOIST!
     
  3. Xaxis

    Xaxis Multi-dimensional Traveler

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2002
    Posts:
    4,750
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    312
    Location:
    3W27+R7
    Likes:
    +9,154
    The Martini livery isn't quite the same case as the Marlboro issue though, is it? With Exhaust, the livery replicates the signature and trademarked Marlboro packaging design. The shape of the red area on the livery is a distinct part of Marlboro's brand and that's what caused the issue (remember, the issue was resolved by changing that shape on Exhaust). With Jazz's livery there doesn't seem to be the same issue as the red and blue stripe configuration isn't part of Martini's logo or label design. TT could easily use a similar enough stripe pattern without any Martini logo and it would resemble Jazz enough. Or, if they could get away with it, they could use a rectangle-and-circle design similar to Martini's logo (but different enough) with the word "Meister" in it instead of Martini.

    meister-logo.png

    I'm not saying the above would be approved, it's just an example of how a similar mark could be used that might have enough difference from actual branding for Martini to approve. I realize it may not be that simple and Martini may have very strict say in it like Marlboro did about the change to Exhaust's pattern. Sure, this wouldn't be accurate like Wheeljack's livery but we have precedent of something similar with Smokescreen. In any case, the particular issues with Marlboro and Exhaust were very specific to their branding as integrated into the livery and the legal aspect of not having cigarette branding on toys.

    We now have precedent with Fuso for a situation like this. Grapple and Inferno are labeled as a Fuso T951 despite that really only applying to the cab and wheels. Unless Laborghini is extremely strict about their licensing, Sunstreaker could be labeled as a Lamborghini Countach or even a modified Lamborghini Countach, if that would appease Lamborghini. Of course, unless one of us has factual information about all aspects of previous licensing agreements between Lamborghini and Takara Tomy, we don't really know how picky they'd be in this regard.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  4. chucksbikeorama

    chucksbikeorama Decepticreep

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2015
    Posts:
    787
    Trophy Points:
    172
    Likes:
    +681
    How so dude?
     
  5. Trailbreaker77

    Trailbreaker77 Veteran TFW2005 Supporter

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2004
    Posts:
    14,242
    News Credits:
    22
    Trophy Points:
    402
    Likes:
    +1,935
    Ebay:
    Not saying anything you posted is incorrect nor do I disagree with it, but the Binaltech days were pre-merger.
     
    • Like Like x 4
  6. Chopper Face

    Chopper Face Emissary of The Vok

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2016
    Posts:
    2,172
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    222
    Likes:
    +5,600
    If you'd be so kind; otherwise I fear I'll end up on the floor curled up in the foetul position constantly muttering "what is life?"
     
  7. kibble

    kibble Seeker style, yo!

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2009
    Posts:
    13,820
    Trophy Points:
    312
    Likes:
    +4,531
    I don't mind the Meister spin...it's not as dumb as crap like goofyear. But if THAT was the issue, they could probably just as easily stick to their toon accuracy and leave the sponsors off.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  8. Emperor Bruticus IV

    Emperor Bruticus IV Destron

    Joined:
    May 29, 2006
    Posts:
    1,256
    News Credits:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    232
    Likes:
    +3,074
    Instagram:
    [​IMG]

    Mark my words my guy... Porsche would 100% say NO, TT can dodge Martini and avoid them in the equation but they cannot dodge Porsche. There is alot of heritage there... please see the companies latest version below. I took a picture of one recently too but cannot currently find it. Porsche would never ever ever allow a fake martini version of their car to be put out and licence it.
    Listen if they do, I will beg for your forgiveness and eat my words, mark my words.

    If I had to take an educated guess I recon TT tried to make your idea fly but have been told to make it correct, hence the up and down rumors.. 3rd parties rushing to market and then lack of news.

    [​IMG]


    Sunstreaker may be called a "Modified Countach" I could actually imagine that, lets indeed see what happens.

    Indeed thats right Trailbreaker77 the Tomy acquisition will hopefully go a long way to building this bridge. I want Jazz to happen!

    EDIT: Pictures I took.

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
    Last edited: Mar 21, 2017
    • Like Like x 1
  9. jackisking

    jackisking Yeah, the MP line is soooo dead

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2014
    Posts:
    7,713
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    247
    Location:
    On the burning Cuyahoga
    Likes:
    +14,700
    Can I just say we have a ton of G1 MP rumors......but no new G1 MPs:oops: . Wish they would go ahead and announce Dinobot , "so we can get on with the get on" and actually get a new G1 reveal.
     
    • Like Like x 3
  10. SunSwipe5

    SunSwipe5 Twin Hellion Masters Of Jet Judo

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2014
    Posts:
    8,361
    Trophy Points:
    262
    Likes:
    +7,170
    Lol, ok.
    Frag it all to the pit! Masterpiece is suppose to be ALL G1, not freaking BW. I'M BEYOND PISSED! HOW DARE TAKARA MAKE MASTERPIECES THAT AREN'T G1.
    How's that Chopper? Feel better now? ;) 
     
    • Like Like x 4
  11. Lacimehc

    Lacimehc Tastes like medicine

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2010
    Posts:
    1,566
    Trophy Points:
    197
    Location:
    Melancholy Hill
    Likes:
    +568
    I know... IT'S AWESOME! Bring on Dinobot~!
     
  12. Prime135

    Prime135 Cyber Planet Key holder for "This Land"

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2014
    Posts:
    14,392
    News Credits:
    11
    Trophy Points:
    307
    Location:
    New Cybertron
    Likes:
    +15,787
    He was talking about none other than the emperor of destruction himself. Don't get me wrong dinobot is great, but outside of an MP combaticon, nothing will give me the same level of satisfaction as the day Megatron was announced.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  13. jackisking

    jackisking Yeah, the MP line is soooo dead

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2014
    Posts:
    7,713
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    247
    Location:
    On the burning Cuyahoga
    Likes:
    +14,700
    Talk about miscommunication LOL:D 
     
    • Like Like x 1
  14. Chopper Face

    Chopper Face Emissary of The Vok

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2016
    Posts:
    2,172
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    222
    Likes:
    +5,600
    Ahh yeah, that's the stuff. Now I can properly enjoy my BW figures, happy in the knowledge that they are irreversibly ruining other people's lives. Because, after all, isn't that what collecting toys is all about... :rolleyes: 
     
    • Like Like x 3
  15. Noobimus Prime

    Noobimus Prime Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2014
    Posts:
    1,173
    Trophy Points:
    197
    Likes:
    +1,091
    Not surprised MP 39 is Dinobot. I'm not sure why people thought otherwise.

    I'd be just fine with Jazz or Hound for MP 40. We will have both of them eventually.
     
  16. GearsRollo

    GearsRollo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2016
    Posts:
    2,835
    Trophy Points:
    222
    Location:
    Toronto, Canada
    Likes:
    +5,272
    Well, if you ask my wife, it's all about finding out exactly how many Transformers are too many to be able to get to my books...
     
  17. zappatton2

    zappatton2 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2012
    Posts:
    1,261
    Trophy Points:
    177
    Likes:
    +196
    I don't know, I think the lack of G1 news is a setup for something mindblowing. Like seeing the tide recede a little too rapidly and knowing somewhere over the horizon is a wave that will smash all in its path...
     
    • Like Like x 1
  18. Ikkstakk

    Ikkstakk Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2010
    Posts:
    10,760
    News Credits:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    272
    Likes:
    +10,731
    Speaking for myself, I thought Dinobot wouldn't be MP-39 for these reasons:
    • MP-38 is a June release
    • Takara has established a six-month progression from reveal to release, longer for Beast characters
    • Dinobot still technically hasn't been revealed or announced, only teased, so "his clock hasn't started yet," so to speak
    And part of my reasoning was a reluctance to face another Q3 release drought, which seems to be the direction we're headed in.
     
    • Like Like x 2
  19. Megatronscrotch

    Megatronscrotch Macro-Con

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Posts:
    422
    Trophy Points:
    92
    Location:
    Vegas Baby
    Likes:
    +46
    I'm definitely feeling half of this.... Predaking is my favorite combiner of all...his color scheme and the sheer ferociousness of the predacons makes him a must have....I have UW devastator which is extremely amazing but I'll take a masterpiece any day.....I'm hoping that astrotrain is out left field character
     
    • Like Like x 1
  20. Verno

    Verno Beast Wars Collector

    Joined:
    May 31, 2009
    Posts:
    8,571
    News Credits:
    7
    Trophy Points:
    287
    Likes:
    +8,733
    That's some exciting new, @TCracker. Cheers for the inside scoop! Let's hope it proves true.

    1) If you think that comment is divisive, you're reading far too much into it. It's not drawing a line of conflict, I'm simply stating a fact, and the fact is that Dinobot has a silhouette reveal (a tried and true teaser for MPs) and no G1 characters do.

    2)You don't have to remind a BW fan about the long nature of MP reveals. I think MP Primal holds the record for this. But again, Dinobot has received his silhouette when no other characters have. It's not a guarantee of course, but it surely puts him as a front runner for the next MP slot.

    3)Primal and Cheetor both had silhouette reveals. Dinobot now has one, so it's doubtful another BW character would sneak in before him. A G1 character certainly could. We all love a surprise announcement! But I'm of the opinion MP-39 will be Dinobot.

    So back to my original point: I'm not making wild speculation. I draw my reasoning from what we've seen with recent releases. If you think that kind of logical summation is still wild speculation, then you must really hate the vast majority of the posts in this now 2795 page thread.