I thought the core of ROTF – the Dynasty of Primes, whose past struggle impacted upon the current warring generation of Autobots/Decepticons – was a great concept to utilize. They weren’t really Transformer gods, but rather the first ever Transformers sporting a devolved but more powerful form, as well as possessing long-forgotten tech to revitalize the AllSpark and keep their race going. But back then, I didn’t know too much about the Dynasty’s source material, the Thirteen. Having checked up on those guys, I can understand what TFans were upset about: they were not written appropriately enough: - They were way too underpowered. Not only did they require a machine to acquire energy from the sun when they could have done it by themselves, but all of them couldn’t defeat than one of them? And they weren’t too smart either: instead of doing something to their brother they hid away the Matrix, by forming a tomb with their own bodies no less. I faced a similar disappointment with THOR, where the Asgardians could not be portrayed as proper Norse gods because it was too fantastic, as well as religiously offensive. I wouldn’t know what the real story with that is, but I wish the original Primes were actually treated as gods, raising up all sorts of apocalyptic stuff on Earth. We wouldn’t need all of them, just a couple or survivors: the Fallen and one other original Prime to go head to head in an epic Transformer Ragnarok fight. - Where the hell were they when Optimus was stabbed in the spark? Why revive Sam when they could have just revived him and saved a lot of trouble? This is actually interesting, because you know gods have this “forbidden to interfere” policy which they might have been following, only intervening when they had no other choice – they had to allow the Fallen to ally himself with the Decepticons, they had to let Optimus die so that the Matrix could be discovered, butn when Sam and the Matrix perished they stepped in to revive the two... - The Fallen was only one of them notable enough, the other six Primes were... the other six Primes. Where was Vector Prime, Beast Prime, Alpha Trion (etc)? All these characters would have been awesome to feature in a live-action film (especially Beast Prime and Vector Prime). At least the Primes had some great looking designs: joshnizzi.com My favourite is #2, the one with the pope hat. I still enjoy ROTF more than DOTM, but its Decepticon masterplan is a serious fragwad, because the Dynasty of Primes was simultaneously not godly enough (too underpowered, the need of a machine) and too godly (Transformer gods too fantastic?) for a TF film.