Discussion in 'Movies and Television' started by Prime17, Apr 12, 2016.
The dude and his group shows up episode 2 and throughout.
THE BATMAN: Matt Reeves Praises The Film's Cast And Crew; Weighs In On Why A Billionaire Superhero Still Works
What else reason is there?
When was a billionaire superhero not relevant or stopped working? Directors and their ass mouths, SMH.
THE BATMAN: It Sounds Like Colin Farrell Will Be Donning Some Prosthetics To Play The Penguin
I'm guessing a glass eye and a pointy nose. Nothing too grotesque, maybe close to his Arkham version.
A) "Batman is a rich person who just beats up the poor and mentally ill! If he really wanted to help, he'd break out that checkbook" has been, bar none, the number one complaint about the character by people who don't pay attention. It's so unanimous among people that would rather outsmart movies than watch them, that it has to be addressed by anyone who's working on this character.
B) Without getting into real life politics or how you or I individually feel about billionaires, it is a generally accepted sentiment that they do not care for the poor or working classes. Beyond that, it's also generally accepted that the root cause of high levels of street crime in American cities is economic stratification. Therefore, someone who's not paying attention could easily see that Gotham City is a hellhole, and come to the conclusion that Batman must not be doing much to fight the things that cause crime in the first place.
That's not true, obviously, the character was a philanthropist before he was an industrialist, and he's always donating a new gymnasium to The Boys and Girls Club of Gotham City or a new telescope to the Gotham Observatory or whatever. The fact of the matter is, that kind of change takes time, and there's a man dressed as a clown attempting to poison the water supply tonight.
C) This is what he actually said and I challenge you to point out to me where he told people to storm mansions and eat the rich;
Reeves was then asked about how Christopher Nolan's movies were rooted in sociopolitical concerns, and whether it's difficult to still make a billionaire superhero work in today's climate.
"To me, that’s the joy of working with it," he responded. "You use those surface elements of it, and you explore them in a way that, I feel, they haven’t been explored yet. Nolan had a brilliant take on them, and so did Burton. Everybody has a particular take. I wanted to do a Batman film where I was allowed to explore the things that matter to me."
"All those aspects you’re talking about, they all fit within a context," Reeves continued. "The movie that we’re making, which is now on pause, is absolutely made in the context of today. It doesn’t ignore any of that."
Damn, brah. Why so serious...
A - I feel that it's a valid enough complaint that it shouldn't be ignored and needs to be addressed. Can Bruce Wayne do enough good as himself, one of Gotham City's wealthiest citizens, through philanthropy and charity? Some stories say he can manage the balance between social and legal welfare and costumed vigilantism, but recent stories say he cannot. I really feel the former should be brought back.
B - I won't comment here. I just feel that stories should write Gotham as a fairly balanced city and not a dystopia-like sin city, that way Batman's purpose as well as Wayne's philanthropy are not in vain.
The cape and the yellow symbol tie the Batsuit together really well, you know?
Ben looks like a Call Of Duty skin. Bale looks like a really cheap action figure, without a lot of details paint.
And, Keaten looks like Batman.
Still the Batman Begins costume for me. Has the awesome silhouette of Keaton's version minus the bright cartoon yellow campiness, more agile, and more intimidating (imo)...
Always liked the Arkham look
That's a cosplayer BTW
Yea, yea, I've always liked the Batman Begins costume. I like it as a movie, and I like the costume too. Only thing I'd change would be making the black, less black, and more like, grey or something. So, the symbol can stand out, along with the details. It looks a lot less like a cheap action figure than the other two movies did. And, much more like Batman.
The Arkham costume is more like what I'm talking about in what I'd prefer. Batman to have some grey again, but still be mostly black. But, let the grey be light enough, to allow the black to stand out. So, one can actually see the details. So, one can actually see the symbols. What's the point in having a bat symbol on your chest, if it just blends in with the rest of the costume, and nobody you fight is ever going to see it to remember it? I thought he wanted the criminals to remember him? I thought that was the whole point of the costume. To spread fright in the hearts of criminals. To become a myth. How are they going to remember him, if they can't see him?
I also, have the same problem with the Keaton one though. I'd prefer a bit more color to it. Rather than all black. Just something, grey works, grey works really well. Like the Kenner action figure. Which I've always preferred it looking like this, to the all black. I'd prefer it to be grey and blue, but Hollywood's shown we're never going to get that. So, can we just get grey and black? No? Just all black, all the time? Thought so.
These movie Batmen costumes all suck and can’t touch....
Because they don’t understand the character and focus on some dipshit armored all black get up.
He’s the Detective. Less is more.
We need new batsuits to have the bat symbol inside the yellow oval or something that resembles that. What's the point of a symbol when NO ONE can see it besides Superman.
Well BAtman Dead end proved that could work
If Captain America can work on screen we can get a Batman that has his blues and yellows and still looks at least semi-functional without being in rubber padding or armor. A blue that's dark enough to look black in under exposed night scenes is ideal. They can even use the old "The oval has armor behind it!" explanation if they feel they need one.
The all black segmented armor look in this movie is fine, but it's really the last time we need to see that for a long while
My point is that it is addressed, ad nauseam, in Batman stories today. Anyone who's saying he's just a rich guy that beats up the poor and disenfranchised to make himself feel better is just refusing to engage with the material. If this guy lives in a world where being Batman and punching out crime one bad guy at a time is a healthy, well adjusted thing to do that doesn't end with him getting shot on his first night out, why can't he live in a world where being Batman has a positive effect on his community?
Even when Batman does take on some version of real world crime, it's human traffickers or big time narcotics dealers or protection rackets or at least an armed robbery in progress. He's not pummeling high school drop outs selling weed into submission. And there's a million stories about him running into a small time crook with a sob story (usually a sick kid) and giving them a way out, or going after corrupt and/or violent cops.
Would I like to see a Batman movie that shows him actively doing something good for the community besides stopping a terrorist plot or whatever? Absolutely. But another story asking whether he's really the problem after all, in any medium? No thank you, there's quite enough of that.
I agree. I mean, arch criminals stealing diamond birds and cats from museums and rich people sucks and all, but I'd much rather live in that city than one where I'm scared to walk to my car at night
The 'last' time has come and gone. Even Snyder realized the all black suit, had to go. At least he had the foresight to paint his suit with dark grey. Unfortunately, it's such a slightly different color, that it just blends in with the rest of the suit. But, at least, he's thinking outside the 'all' black suit Batman.
I think the last time for the all black Batman suite has come and gone. Like, a decade ago, with Dark Knight Rises. It's time to go back to his traditional Grey and Blue. Or at least, Grey and Black, at least give us that, WB.
The Batman Star Claims Reeves' Film is Darkest Yet
When asked if The Batman will feature a darker depiction of Batman, Andy Serkis stated, "I would say that's not far from the truth."
While he unsurprisingly kept from revealing too much in the way of details, the award-winning actor did explain, "It's very much about the emotional connection between Alfred and Bruce," adding, "That's really at the centre of it. And it is a really exquisite script that Matt has written."
Serkis then provided comment on taking on Alfred, a role that was notably played by renowned actor Michael Caine in Christopher Nolan's Dark Knight trilogy. "He [Caine] was fantastic. His Alfred was legendary, I couldn't even begin to go there. You have to make it your own, and see what it is about the character that connects with you."
/reads news about how it's even darker this time.
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