The All New Marvel Now Thread (Renamed and Rebooted!)

Discussion in 'Comic Books and Graphic Novels' started by Star Saber, Jul 3, 2012.

  1. Omegashark18

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    It’s a good bit of continuity work for sure.

    I’ve equally seen people like and hate Cates’ run on Venom. Primarily the introduction of Knull into so many aspects of the Marvel universe and the retcons it’s brought with it. Comparing it to fan fiction.

    But all the comments I’ve seen on Absolute Carnage’s first issue have been positive. Saying how it perfectly captures the horror aspect.
     
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    I admit, I wasn't too fond of the entire Symbiote God retcon thing either - but Cates has made it work so far. As for Absolute Carnage, yeah, Cates has really done a great job with the horror aspect, and Stegman's art really sells it. Carnage hasn't felt this scary/threatening in a long time.
     
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    So, I’m about to start reading Ed Brubaker’s run on Captain America.

    Anything I should know before I start?
     
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    Get ready to enjoy yourself. For safety's sake, probably better to be seated for this.
     
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    It is one of the greatest comic runs of the past 20 years, I can’t see how you won’t be impressed. Enjoy the ride.
     
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    It is really good, but be prepared for the fact that Civil War and Fear Itself change the status quo of the book quite a bit, so if you don’t read those you might have a few moments of confusion.
     
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    Cosmic Ghost Rider Just Retconned a Major Marvel Crossover

    Turns out it was actually Cosmic Ghost Rider who
    shot Uatu the Watcher in Original Sin. Meaning that Nick Fury was sentenced for a crime he didn’t commit. Making his fate all the more tragic. But if anything this might leave the door open for his return.
     
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    But wasn't Nick in no way repentant for the act?
     
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    It didn't matter. All that mattered was getting him out of the way in favor of someone who looked like the movie version.
     
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    Two volumes in on Brubaker.

    I can why this served as the inspiration for The Winter Soldier(hell it even lifted one of the line from it).

    Now I have to ask, what we’re your initial reactions to this issues when they came out or when you first read them(specifically the revelation that Bucky was alive all this time)?
     
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    "So this is what it's like when a competent writer does this and not Judd Winick."
     
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    Ah, the guy who wrote the Red Hood’s return.
     
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    Except Under the Hood was excellent as well. The only thing that messed that up was they hijacked the explanation for his return to put in DC's awful awful awful company-wide crossover, Infinite Crisis. But the explanation originally intended, subsequently returned to, and used in the also fantastic animated adaptation, works just fine.
     
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    And how was Bucky’s return in comparison?
     
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    Brubaker is definitely a better writer than Winnick, although I think at least some of Winnick's stuff holds up better than he gets credit for. Under the Hood and Red Hood:the Lost Years were both fantastic. The tail end of his Green Lantern run is much better than the trainwreck it began as.

    But Brubaker's run on Cap is way more consistent. It's great throughout. On the other hand, if you ever read his Daredevil run, that starts amazingly but then fizzles after the first arc. The entire rest of his run is kind of lukewarm. But Cap? Most people rate it as one of the best runs in the character's entire history. Some even place it above Gruenwald's run.
     
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    Does that include the comic that ran from 2011 to 2012?
     
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    You guys inspired me to read the collected "Winter Soldier", which I checked out of the library, and I have to agree that it's very good. It's well above the other admittedly limited amount of Captain America that I've read, and I can see where they adapted parts of it for the movie, mainly Bucky's return and appearance, while all the stuff with the cosmic cube and the Red Skull was not used.
     
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