The All New Marvel Now Thread (Renamed and Rebooted!)

Discussion in 'Comic Books and Graphic Novels' started by Star Saber, Jul 3, 2012.

  1. UltraAlanMagnus

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    Well that's just Dandy.
     
  2. AgentOrange

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    The only color in the flashbacks is red. How much more heavyhanded do you want them to get?
     
  3. QLRformer

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    What the hell kind of move is that?
     
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    It's most likely marvels way of saying, oh you didn't like Captain America being black, well now you are going to suffer the consequences
     
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    This is just a massive fuck-up on Marvel's part. It's sad because they thought this would an amazing plot twist when it's just shitty writing. It's beyond insulting to the creators of Captain America and Marvel's Jewish fans since Cap was basically created to punch Hitler in the face. To make him support such an organization is.... disgusting.

    Why does Marvel love this fictional neo-Nazi organization so much? Give Steve other villains that aren't HYDRA. I understand they're an integral part and all but move on already.
     
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    Yea I have not bought a new comic since July/August 2014 because of I got tired of stunts like this. With this basically being the final nail in the coffin for me.
    Captain America is not a Nazi. This is just another slap in the face to the character. Sure there is a possibility that this could be all an illusion of some sorts just waiting to be retcon and will be the case... eventually so in the end this will all be pointless. But lets says that this is for real at the moment. That means Captain America who was created by Jewish people with the intent of mocking Hitler before the United States was even in the war in now being turned into what he was created to fight just to be another stunt to get readers interested when it does the opposite for me and makes not want to spend my money on any Marvel comic.
     
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    Um, firstly, spoilers.
    Secondly, it's clearly going to be explained, it's just a first-issue end hook, nothing more, nothing less. It's worked as well, everyone's talking about it, and it certainly got me to go and buy the issue.
     
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    Just the opposite for me, I was interested, but now I'm not and skipped buying the issue. I'm tired of stunts.
     
  10. Ravenxl7

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    Well that's... dissapointing. Even if it is some sort of illusion, I'm glad I decided to not pick it up. Of all the things you could possibly do with the character that would inevitably piss-off the fan-base... that's crossing a line.
    Anybody?
     
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    What the #@(%,
    Steve Rogers as a Hydra Agent
    is most dumbest thing that MARVEL ever come up with, but it so up there with Spidey giving his marriage to Devil.
     
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    You're all overreacting , FFS suddenly this is an afront to all Jewish people, simply because part of the creative team that made him was Jewish?
    The character was not made to punch Hitler in the face or protest how Jews were treated by the Nazis. It was a patriotic comic released at a time were the majority of the US was pro Hitler and Nazis. And the big thing about him was always how he was essentially the perfect Aryan, the ideal the Nazis strived for, but opposed them.

    This is simply a thing to get people talking and buying. It will either turn out to be someone fucking with his head, be an alt universe version of him, or turn out that he was originally a sleeper agent meant to infiltrate Hydra.
     
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    I don't usually read Captain America, and I even only skimmed this...

    I think the heavy use of
    red
    , both in the flashback and on the plane, is a big clue to what is going on.

    Seeing Zemo
    was a nice surprise, though.

    I don't know anything about Jack Flag and Free Spirit, but seeing them fighting along side Cap, really gave me a Bat-fam vibe... until....
     
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    This. I was a little shocked by the revelation myself but I wasn't "OUTRAGED" by what is an obvious hook to get readers talking about Captain America.
     
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    wow, i can't wait for DC to follow this up with batman always being the one who killed his own parents, with a time machine.
     
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    Eh, I stand by what I originally said, it's a fucking stupid idea. Yea, it will be undone in no time at all, but the only point of it was so Marvel could get its name out there so the focus wasn't entirely on DC. This is a twist just to be a twist and sell books, not something organic. (I get the point of all comics is to sell books but this just feels forced, in other words).

    This reeks of an 11th hour plan, like "Shit, Rebirth could actually be good and draw a lot of attention, what can we do that is huge that can equally draw attention???"

    And it worked. I don't think it's a coincidence at all this huge twist to get people talking happened the same day as Rebirth came out.

    This is like that whole "Namor is dead" stunt they pulled just to sell books and then rapidly undo it. No long-lasting consequences for any of this stuff, just a shocking revelation to quickly sell books. It's like "What's the most out of character thing we can do to sell a ton of books quickly?"
     
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    ... Don't give DC any ideas.
     
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    That's the Internet in a nutshell these days.

    I mean damn, "fans" are so thin-skinned these days. I don't like the story, I won't pick up the book, it doesn't ruin my enjoyment of the character and I'll just come back to the book in a few months when a different story starts. I certainly don't feel inclined to tell the writer to kill himself.

    I guarantee 90% of those tweets are from people who don't read comics to begin with.

    But this is exactly what Marvel wanted. They managed to completely turn all eyes away from DC and Rebirth with just one book.