TFW2005 Interview from Hascon

Discussion in 'Transformers News and Rumors' started by Tony_Bacala, Sep 17, 2017.

  1. edgs2099

    edgs2099 Optimistically realistic. Moderator

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2010
    Posts:
    10,446
    News Credits:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    342
    Location:
    Derry, ME (under)
    Likes:
    +6,533
    This thread went exactly as it had to go. There is no other way for this thread.
     
    • Like Like x 3
  2. orangeitis

    orangeitis All orange, all the time. Looks infectious.

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2012
    Posts:
    8,632
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    247
    Location:
    Tucson, AZ
    Likes:
    +15,098
    Wow. Lots of hate in this thread. Not a shred of wonder about what the toy designing process is like. Everything here are just assumptions that Hasbro CAN do it perfectly, but doesn't.

    Fans frequently have directly opposing views with each other on how they want their little plastic robots so how could Hasbro do anything that pleases that?
    That's typical PR lingo.
     
    • Like Like x 5
  3. Hooper_X

    Hooper_X i buy characters not collectibles

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2003
    Posts:
    2,793
    Trophy Points:
    312
    Likes:
    +2,734
    Given how the G2 box sets wound up at Ross/Marshalls/other closeout stores, I'm guessing they didn't do as well as anticipated.

    I don't know if it would have been "better" to do Defensor and say "NEVER BEFORE AVAILABLE" or stick to the possibility of nostalgia for "the one from the 90s", tbh.
     
  4. Smitty.1981

    Smitty.1981 I HAVE THE POWER!

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2010
    Posts:
    17,552
    News Credits:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    337
    Location:
    Wichita Falls, TX
    Likes:
    +32,332
    They should have put out the box sets in October so they could get noticed by kids in time to bug mom and dad about wanting it for Christmas.
     
  5. flux convoy

    flux convoy RIP Botcon.

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2004
    Posts:
    2,925
    Trophy Points:
    312
    Location:
    Spinning my wheels into the void.
    Likes:
    +941
    Ebay:
    They weren't available at other physical retail outlets. Who knows how well they did. For all we know, they were always intended for those stores.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  6. G.B. Blackrock

    G.B. Blackrock Autobot Ally

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2004
    Posts:
    7,531
    News Credits:
    11
    Trophy Points:
    337
    Likes:
    +5,749
    I find that explanation doubtful, but the fact that they weren't otherwise available at physical retail is an important point. If the G2 sets had been more widely available at brick-and-mortar, they might well have done better.

    That said, I imagine that the reason the G2 sets were online-exclusive (at first) had more to do with the lack of brick-and-mortar outlets willing to stock them.

    Until Ross/Marshalls/etc snatched them up to sell them at a discount, of course. But I still feel confident that this was done because they didn't sell well to start with. Not because Hasbro always intended these toys to show up there.
     
    Last edited: Sep 18, 2017
    • Like Like x 1
  7. flux convoy

    flux convoy RIP Botcon.

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2004
    Posts:
    2,925
    Trophy Points:
    312
    Location:
    Spinning my wheels into the void.
    Likes:
    +941
    Ebay:
    How well they sold at retail and how well they sold directly from Hasbro are important differences. They "sold well" for Hasbro because they made it to some form of market. That's their part of it, done. Their money was made. We can only assume they "sold well" for retail because they disappeared almost immediately. I find it hard to believe that either way is an obstacle other than their willingness to produce the sets.
     
  8. zachprime86

    zachprime86 AKA Launch Pad Destroyer

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2014
    Posts:
    973
    Trophy Points:
    167
    Location:
    The Sunshine State
    Likes:
    +427
    I still don't understand why they always dodge the questions/ ask questions we've known before.
     
  9. Sol Fury

    Sol Fury The British Butcher Administrator News Staff

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2002
    Posts:
    36,279
    News Credits:
    7
    Trophy Points:
    412
    Likes:
    +1,570
    Facebook:
    Instagram:
    Because there are a lot of things Hasbro straight up cannot / will not answer. It's always been that way with PR, there are things they simply cannot talk about for a variety of reasons (licensing / marketing / still going through the approvals process).

    So when you know this, and you sit down to ask the questions, do you ask the questions you know from experience you'll never get an answer to, or do you go slightly more safe so that you can glean some interesting information and report back a more interesting conversation than "sorry, no comment right now", "cannot comment on our future plans", "care bears forever!"
     
    • Like Like x 2
  10. G.B. Blackrock

    G.B. Blackrock Autobot Ally

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2004
    Posts:
    7,531
    News Credits:
    11
    Trophy Points:
    337
    Likes:
    +5,749
    While I don't disagree about the distinction between sales at retail and sales from Hasbro, this seems to ignore the fact that sales from Hasbro to Ross/Marshalls/etc. were a considerable amount of time after the toys were first made available to retail (whether brick-and-mortar or online) outlets. That suggests to me that they didn't sell well before then.

    That's really how Ross/Marshalls/etc work. They order stock that producers are keen to get rid of because they couldn't get rid of it through their normal outlets.
     
    • Like Like x 2
  11. YoungPrime

    YoungPrime DJD VET

    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2004
    Posts:
    9,666
    News Credits:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    337
    Likes:
    +8,838
    Not true in this case. Hasbro assumed we needed 4 different TR Optimus Primes at once. When in reality I didn't want any of them.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  12. maltesefalcon

    maltesefalcon stuff dreams are made of

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2008
    Posts:
    569
    Trophy Points:
    207
    Likes:
    +515
    next time you can ask them about a retail store just for Hasbro stuff like lego does. that would solve a few problems

    my area has stopped generations in most of the major toy shops to put in the last knight and more rid. I have never seen a complete wave of marvel legends since the avengers.

    the stickers are not something that bothers me except when its on things like broadside where mine was completely messed up due to the fold, or on grimlock where they are unnecessary
     
  13. Lumpy

    Lumpy Taylor Swift Action Master Super Mod

    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2002
    Posts:
    20,058
    News Credits:
    31
    Trophy Points:
    412
    Likes:
    +766
    If they made the box all beat up and faded, like that GIJoe SDCC set, that could be pretty cool, but also, that was a very special limited thing... not sure that would work at retail.

    Yeah, they get stuff WAY later, so it's probable that it didn't sell as well to the intended retailer. We've known for years, maybe even decades now that stuff is ordered by retailers. So if they ordered a TON of wave one, and it sits around, they won't order as much wave 2 (like the CW Stunticons) but then might order more wave three because one has finally sold... so ultimately poor distribution is on the stores and their buying/not buying ability.

    Absolutely. I'd rather have decent answers to slightly off questions than a lot of "NO" answers. Saying that they'll listen to fans, keep gimmicks alive and wait and see to me gives hope that Snapdragon and Apeface are planned, or at least on the short list of guys they want to do.

    4? Retail, G2... am I missing 2 others?

    I think a brick and mortar Hasbro Toy Shop COULD work, but it could also be like KB and just be a nightmare of a mess for them as well...
     
  14. AutobotAvalanche

    AutobotAvalanche Number One in Boogieland Moderator

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2016
    Posts:
    16,161
    News Credits:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    302
    Location:
    California
    Likes:
    +39,857
    Voyager, G2, PMOP, and Magnus Prime.
     
  15. YoungPrime

    YoungPrime DJD VET

    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2004
    Posts:
    9,666
    News Credits:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    337
    Likes:
    +8,838
    1) Voyager TR Optimus Prime (Blitzwing Pre-tool)
    2) Leader Class Power Master Optimus Prime
    3) Voyager Class Lazer Prime from the TRU Set (Blitzwing Pre-tool........again)
    4) Leader Class Power Master Optimus Prime from the BBTS set. (Takara's Version)
    And oh yeah....
    5) Skate Board Optimus.
     
  16. Sol Fury

    Sol Fury The British Butcher Administrator News Staff

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2002
    Posts:
    36,279
    News Credits:
    7
    Trophy Points:
    412
    Likes:
    +1,570
    Facebook:
    Instagram:
    Being fair, three of those were exclusives. Only two were general release, in different size classes, and as two very distinct versions. PMOP in particular had been in demand for a while.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  17. YoungPrime

    YoungPrime DJD VET

    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2004
    Posts:
    9,666
    News Credits:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    337
    Likes:
    +8,838
    My point was that I didn't want any of these Primes but even if you skipped the 2 retail ones Hasbro still found a way of making get one by purchasing any of the 2 TR exclusive sets. That G2 Prime was the only figure that I didn't want in that TRU exclusive set. Which I spent 2 months trying to sell as a result.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  18. neospark1

    neospark1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2003
    Posts:
    1,864
    News Credits:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    287
    Likes:
    +400
    This was not an interview. This was:

    TF Brand Guys: Everything perfect. Nothing t see here.
    TFW: Aww shucks. You guys are awesome and I agree with everything you just didn't say.

    QUOTE="Tony_Bacala, post: 15036067, member: 1"]Was able to chat with Ben and John at Hascon last week. Was a crazy busy week here and the audio on my recording was wacked so needed time to do it right and salvage this thing.

    These guys are really good at interview kung fu, they can pivot and redirect with the best of them. Hopefully there are some nuggets in there for everyone though!

    TFW2005 Interview with John Warden and Ben Montano - Transformers News - TFW2005[/QUOTE]
     
    • Like Like x 2
  19. orangeitis

    orangeitis All orange, all the time. Looks infectious.

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2012
    Posts:
    8,632
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    247
    Location:
    Tucson, AZ
    Likes:
    +15,098
    Because they're under non-disclosure agreements. They tell us too much and they'll lose their jobs. Or worse.
    That's what a brand team interview looks like. They can't tell us what they're sworn to secrecy to under NDA.
    You're comparing "we" to "you" there.
    No company should release products based on what just one person wants or doesn't want. The fact that you didn't want them means nothing in regards to the popularity of their contents of their new products.
     
    Last edited: Sep 18, 2017
    • Like Like x 5
  20. Lumpy

    Lumpy Taylor Swift Action Master Super Mod

    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2002
    Posts:
    20,058
    News Credits:
    31
    Trophy Points:
    412
    Likes:
    +766
    exactly. It's like people want them to finish the panel where they introduce a line to us, say it'll arrive in Decemberish, then want a post interview when they tell us the next year or more afterwards.
     
    • Like Like x 2