TFW The Last Knight User Reviews (Post all reviews here) (Assume SPOILERS)

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  1. TheSoundwave

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    I watched the Last Knight about a month ago. I used to really hate the Bayverse, but I actually enjoyed watching this movie, it was a lot of fun.

    I thought the first 20 or 30 minutes were a blast. I absolutely loved the stuff in the ruins of Chicago, the junkyard, and the abandoned town. Those were all such interesting locations and interesting situations. It felt like an adventure movie, on the run from the bad guys. I really wish the entire movie had just been Cade, Izzy, Jimmy, and the Autobots rescuing broken Transformers and building an army to fight Quintessa or something.

    I wasn't so big on the knight stuff, it seemed kind of like a crutch to me (which is ironic considering that's in the title of the movie). I feel like the movie takes a nosedive when Cogman and Sir Edmund Burton enter the movie. These were fine characters, but they didn't really fit the tone of what was going on. We go from a fast-paced, in-the-moment adventure to a long talking scene that isn't even that relevant. The sequence at Burton's castle is interesting in theory, but it drags on too long and it ultimately amounts to nonsense. I will say it's not terrible though, it's elevated by the fact that it's a bit tongue-in-cheek.

    Thankfully the finale picks up a bit. The remains of Cybertron entering Earth's atmosphere was a cool idea, and I applaud them for preforming Cybertron practically (although I take a bit of an issue with the execution). There were a lot of cool little moments, like the Infernocus combiner and Hot Rod's time-stopping gun (seriously, why has no one put that in a movie before this?). I feel like the battle could have been a little more creative, but I do think it's far better than some of the city battles (which just look bland to me).

    I think the Autobots could have used a little bit more characterization, but I think this movie has very interesting human characters (it's one of the few pieces of Transformers media that I would argue gets humans right). One thing I noticed is that pretty much every major human character in the movie has a solid connection to the robots and a reason to be there. They earn their place in the story. Cade gave up a normal life to hide the Autobots. Burton has a Transformers museum. This is more interesting to me than characters like Sam Witwicky or the TFP kids, who are just sort of there because the story needs humans. Heck, I'd argue Izzy is possibly the most interesting human character we've seen in the brand (at least in theory). I really wish she were explored more.

    I really applaud the fact that they made a Transformers movie that wasn't Optimus heavy. I like Optimus, but he tends to dominate the story when he's on-screen. Aside from that, he's used all the time in TF media and it was kind of neat seeing his role decreased. I like this interpretation of Hot Rod. I never really cared for the character (always found him a bit generic), so I was fine with the filmmakers doing something completely different. This was by far my favorite movieverse Megatron (maybe one of my favorite Megatron designs ever). I'm really glad they kept Frank Welker on board. The team of Decepticons was great! This is the first time I can recall seeing movieverse Decepticons having real personalities, even if they were a bit basic. Their introduction was cheesy as heck, but that's what made it wonderful.

    To me The Last Knight felt kind of tongue-in-cheek overall. It felt like the filmmakers were in on the joke. About a year ago I rewatched the '07 film, and I was surprised how "serious business" everything was (not to say it was humorless by any means, but it takes itself pretty seriously at times). I sort of applaud them for trying to play it straight, but I don't feel like it worked. Some of the government scenes, military scenes, and stuff with Sam's school/love life are kind of grueling. The Last Knight feels very Marvel at times, and I enjoyed that. Even when it slowed down, it never felt that tedious me (the closest for me was probably the submarine sequence.)

    I liked about 70% - 80% of the movie. That's not to say it was great or even a well-made film, but it was an enjoyable guilty pleasure to me. There was also a lot of good humor in there. Off the top of my head I can think of several memorable quotes. In general I'm amazed how far the technology has come since the series first started, the robots look very realistic and the animation is very fluid. They've really nailed body language and facial expression. I would be curious to see a fan-edit that removes the stuff with Burton and the knights, and just focuses on the present-day adventure without all the history stuff.
     
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    The best way I can review this movie:

    I rented this movie on Amazon, and watched it right away, and rather than letting the file just automatically delete after the 3 days you get for the rental, I just deleted it immediately.
     
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    My overall review is going to be me paraphrasing Jontron's tweet about his thoughts on The Last Jedi: "It was the cinematic equivalent of ISIS smashing up a museum". I would rather defend Energon, Pat Lee, Kiss Players, or the Machinima Prime Wars Trilogy than to say a single positive thing about this "film".
     
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    isnt cybertron destroyed/damaged/obliterated/ cut into half during dotm event? can someone explain why is there another cybertron ??? am confused ... and also is earth unicron ???

    ps: yeah i know... im late to the party.. just managed to watch this movie in 2020 during house quarantine..ha!
     
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    I still never got around to this one... after AOE, I just couldn’t do it again...
     
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    What we see visually is a fraction of the planet imploding in the Space Bridge. We never see the entire planet destroyed. It seems Cybertron's outer layers were stripped away, and many inner layers fractured, causing the smaller, more intact, but still damaged, remnants of the planet to survive.

    Honestly, I never had any problem with it.
     
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    I think Cybertron basically was cut in half. The half that was being transported through the space bridge got disintegrated, and the other half reformed into a smaller planet (the Cybertron in TLK is much smaller than the one in DOTM). It was sort of indirect, but to me all the pieces were there, and they fit together fine.

    On a side note, I actually really liked that TLK dealt with the aftermath of Cybertron being destroyed (right down to Optimus being upset at its damaged state). That was one complaint I recall having about AOE when it came out...there was no mention of Cybertron's destruction at all. Nothing about the Autobots dealing with the possible loss of their home, or attempting to discover if it (or part of it) still existed. For all the Autobots knew, it could have simply been returned to its original location (we don't really know how the space bridge works). I'm glad TLK thought to address that, and give Cybertron'sfate more finality.
     
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    The way I see it, Cyberton was mostly obliterated upon imploding into itself in DOTM. Ever since then, Quintessa has spent her time putting whatever she could salvage together from the debri, hence a smaller planet with chunks of it teathered to the core. All she needed to fully rebuild and revive the planet was an energy source powerful enough, in this case Unicron's lifeforce.

    One would think that would basically transfer Unicron's spark into Cybertron, but there was no dark energon involved and I doubt that they would have touched on that even if the series had continued.
     
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    Quintessa seems to be pulling together the broken remnants of Cybertron together into some kind of shattered planet. And as said, it's much smaller than dotm so there does seem to be huge parts of the planet missing, presumably from the space bridge implosion.

    And yes, Unicron is Earth.
     
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    i hate op new look in aoe and tlk (basically the same look) it just doesnt spell optimus prime without those iconic window chest, truck grill abs, shoulder smokestacks...and because of that, i skipped their entire optimus prime toy for both aoe and tlk movies... however i did get the weijiang commander based on evasion mode prime ...thats the only nice thing about aoe imho ...

    wow thats kinda make sense... thanks for the explanation!!
     
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    While not a great film or good film tlk manages to still have good visual effects.
     
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    IMHO TLK is one of the worst movies ever made, the only redeeming qualities were the special effects, the music, and the WW2 scene
     
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    did you think it was worse then RotF?
    for me, I like #1 (although the Bay-ness gets more cringe every year) and BB, and thought DotM wasn't anywhere near good, but had enough entertainment value to push it into enjoyable,
    but found AoE just mind-numbing and yeah, I thought RotF was one of the worst movies I've ever sat through....
     
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    Rotf had its moments it’s not good but it’s Waaaaay better than TLK
     
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    In all fairness, the Asylum movies don't pretend they're anything but knock offs, and some of their stuff is legitamately amazing because of how hokey they get.

    I mean, their Sherlock Holmes film has him fighting fucking dinosaurs.
     
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    I prefer the older syfy channel monster movies before Asylum got involved.
     
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    TLK, whatever flaws it may have, is not even close the worst movie ever made. Nor are any of the other Bay movies.

    Yeah, The Last Knight is a visually gorgeous but chaotic mess, but so are tons of other big budget flicks. If anything, The Last Knight, like all the Bay movies, at least makes it feel like the robots and spaceships and Cybertron have some weight and realness to them. In many recent blockbusters, like Justice League, Aquaman, and Godzilla: King of the Monsters, I don't even get that from the CGI creatures. The Last Knight was not any more chaotic than one of those three movies, nor was it any more chaotic than Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales, Rise of Skywalker, or Batman Vs. Superman. Every single one of those movies was at least as much as a mess as The Last Knight, if not more so in some instances.

    So yeah, a messy movie, and a flawed movie, and it makes plenty of questionable editing, continuity, and writing mistakes, but there are plenty of other movies that fit that description.
     
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