TFC Toys Hades (Liokaiser)

Discussion in 'Transformers 3rd Party Discussion' started by Javier, Jul 18, 2015.

  1. canofsprite

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    Is there anyway to contact TFC for a tiny sprue cover replacement? I bought my Leozack used and unfortunately one of the sprue covers is missing on the canopy. Or does anybody here have an extra sprue they're willing to sell?

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  2. tomboland

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    Completed Hades this morning with Aiakos and by God he looks glorious. It's a shame about his wobbly limbs but it's not a deal breaker. He poses just fine. It's not like he's falling apart at the seams. I mean hinestky, since when did pick up a bit and shake it to test leg wobble become a normal QC test? He stands just great for me :) 

    Do the replacement pieces Aiakos came with actually do much to help with the leg connectors? Mine have been fine so far, should I bother replacing them with the new ones?
     
  3. Big Bronze Rim

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    Bobby Skullface mentioned in his review that the pegs are identical (cannot comment yet as I don't have mine) and did nothing to fix his and it could be argued it made it worse. I did grab a couple of o-rings from work to try out and see and it did nothing to improve the knee joint connection slop. It's just a bad design and an o-ring isn't going to cure it.
     
  4. tomboland

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    I saw a bit of that review where he described it as a train wreck which to be fair to TFC is a bit harsh lol
     
  5. BIOMEC

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    Bobby Skullface is a little bit too negative for me... How much of what he said is really truth? I have seen his review and Hades has his issues but i don't think he is that bad...

    Hades upper limbs have ratchet elbows? In the review it seems that is not the case.
     
  6. tomboland

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    elbows? no. shoulders yes
     
  7. mikeszekely

    mikeszekely Not Pessimus Prime

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    The thing about Skullface is that you kind of have to get to know him. Yes, he's negative, but if I'm going to drop $80-$150 for a 3P toy I wanna know what's wrong with it. A lot of reviews, especially ones who don't get review samples, tend to review what they but and buy what they like, so they gloss over negatives. And, to answer your question, I think everything Skullface says about Hades is true. The real question isn't really one of truth, it's one of personal preferences. It's not whether Hades has issues, is how much do those issues bother you?

    One point he makes, one I agree with but has been shouted down by people who take criticism of the this they like far too personally, is the question of price and quality. The retail prices for Hades are are both in line with previous TFC releases, but they're also in line with other newer combiners from other companies. The problem is that those releases then to be of higher quality, so the retail price for Hades doesn't seem like a good deal (he's fortunately 20-25% less from reputable sellers on eBay). Bottom line, TFC either needs to be cheaper, or they need to be better. Judging by the first Poseidon release, they're going for better, which is fine.
     
  8. 00raiser956

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    Honestly the leg thing doesn't bother me he stands fine and honestly im never gonna hold him and flop him like that in skullfaces video lol. It's the Minos arm that bothers me he is more loose but Guyhawk fits snug and doesn't flop around. Minos his nosecone tends to move easily as well.
     
  9. tomboland

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    After having finally been able to mess with him this evening i can say this. Dont expect to be able to pose him very dynamically. His hips are designed with the ratchet points far apart enough for a good stance but the "wobble" between the combiner joints combined with his own weight forces his stance to widen to the point where he risks falling over. Doesnt bother me as he was always going to just stand all like "Yes, I AM Liokaiser! thanks for noticing!" Food for thought if any of you are considering him
     
  10. ichnach

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    I don't get all the leg wobble complaints. Mine stands solidly and doesn't fall over or even try to. He is pretty poseable and ANY combiner you shake around is going to have some wobble at the joint. Unless you live in an area that is a continuous earthquake i can't see the issue. It seems like some people want there to be issues just so they have something to nitpick.
     
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    i do like mine but then again i did not pay $100+shipping a figure either

    but they really need to move away form the energon ports now that the figures are larger and can no longer really swap between the other figures now
     
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    I'm pretty sure all of the TFC combiner limbs are still interchangeable, aren't they?
     
  13. LLSmoothJ

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    Poseidon uses different ports now (Most likely to make sure the ratchets are strong enough to keep the arms from falling due to the weight of the figure held in weapon mode). Whether they keep those ports for future combiners is yet to be seen.
     
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    I still wish that TFC would've given Hades those new combiner ports.


    Ah well.
     
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    That would have been nice. We did get replacement pegs that are identical and some useless o-rings though. He does look good once you get him posed though.
     
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    Thank you ver much for your answer! Its a shame... HADES looks ver nice... Oh well... I still have hopes for Poseidon!
     
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    It's based on a Springer Type "KO" bot.
     
  19. razingstorm

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    I love watching Bobby's reviews. They are entertaining. But he kinda wanted this to be balls and so it was presented as balls. I'm reminded of his review of GT Mixer Truck, a figure I loved, and he shit all over it. So I have to remind myself that much like his obsession with paint, I don't always share his values for figures.

    And that's okay, but it's important to not take one reviewer's presentation as gospel.
     
  20. Naroki

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    I think he fair enough.
    Before buy this set , I also watch many of other reviewer, and result is my opinion is matching him for this project.
    He is paint addict and G1 accurate fan so his opinion regards by paint and proportion I'm not mind so much.
    But design flaw and QC issue is a real thing.
    He is not all much negative , I think in Hades set he said all individual bot is OK , Combiner and stand only is OK , but problem is when you try to play with it. because static on this set is not enough.
    And he review of many toy are very good- Gcreation swoop, Toy world devastator , maketoys defensor , Warbotron bricus. event KFC have high positive review from him but TFC don't?

    Hades hip ratchet are not great enough to hold dynamic pose, tap on leg bot will untap, leg is shaking.
    But he look great and it is only option for Liokaiser right now.
    I've no regret on this set due to they look great both individual mode and combine mode. but combine mode have some problem.
    It may be come to "what are you expected with this set?"
    I'm a type of playing my toy, action pose , etc . so I'm expected more of this due to price point. (I paid 100Usd due to first TFC product...)
    And leg shaking is really bug me. event combiner war have done better than this regards combiner port.