Discussion in 'Movies and Television' started by Dark Skull, Apr 23, 2022.
Six movies and a season?!
After the last 2 movies, nobody cares about Terminator anymore, same as with Predator or Alien. They wrecked the franchise.
Also, what a hilarious title. How many times did the war definitely end, only to begin again next movie?
Same here. I liked T3 and Salvation too. I frankly wish we could have gotten another movie set in the post-apocalypse setting instead of whatever the hell Genisys was.
Blame it on the time zone difference hehe
Terminator 7: End of Me Giving A Fuck
Just kidding, I stopped caring after Salvation. Even though Terminator 3 wasn't the best, I still think they should have just stopped there.
I stopped after rise of the machines. IDK how you can go from Judgement Day, which was amazing, to that.
Sorry for the thread necro but I wanted to get this off my chest in a relevant thread.
Terminator needs to walk back to the horror/slasher genre and dig back into what we fear most.
The first movie existed at a time when the internet was in its infancy (so Skynet could be a boogeyman) and robots were threatening to take jobs in factories. The idea of an internet in charge of nuclear weapons sending back a robot demon to kill humanity's next Jesus figure resonated on both very real and existential fears.
The sequel took the first movie and amped it all up with an even more powerful robot demon, but this time an inferior robot demon has been converted into a robot angel to protect "Jesus". Nice plot twist and some interesting philosophical questions ensued.
Both were still slasher films that did what good slasher films do - prey on our fears.
The other movies lost their way when they became "mythos" movies - investing less in our fears and more in world building and making creative villains.
Soooooo......how do filmmakers make a scary Terminator movie again? Invest in society's fears, tech speaking.
1. AI is still freaking frightening. M3GAN is giving this a go.
2. We live in a surveillanced world. Everywhere we go where there are people, there's a camera or a microphone.
3. I would dare say that, in terms of religious fears, it's less about Christianity End-of-the-world and more that, if you die, you find out there really IS a God. And IT's not happy.
To that, I'd propose a treatment called "Terminators" where Skynet doesn't have to blow up the world. You either obey or you die. Because Skynet will know. It will find you. It will kill you. Because it's God and it's not happy. --- BUUUUT, we need a protagonist. The Conner family saga seems over and done. Rather, we go a little 1984. Just a young guy who likes to game the system a bit because he thinks there's more to life than Skynet but gets in over his head. The only way to escape is off the grid and underground. And maybe, he can eventually find others like him.
So, the horror aspect is obviously that anyone can be a Terminator. Skynet will always know where he is. He might be safe but loved ones may not. It would almost be like the The Matrix but there's no kung-fu to save the protagonist. He runs. Or dies.
Terminator franchise just needs to die. There was no need after T2.
We got a alternate ending.
Can we just not?
That right there. The perfect ending. Nothing else is necessary.
Who remembers The Sarah Connor Chronicals? That was the only other Terminator thing that's been good imo since T1 + T2
It's a good franchise that simply lost its way and forgot it was a horror franchise first and a sci-fi franchise second.
So kind of like a mixture between the movie "Eagle Eye," that one recent movie where Not-Amazon Alexa was the villain, and the plot of Westworld Season 3 with Rebahoam controling every little detail about humans from their birth to their death (if Season 3 hadn't been, y'know, garbage ).
Sounds about right.
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