I posted a few days ago about putting pins back in with a vise and someo of you suggested pliers, which would probably be easier for most of my pins. I was thinking about a better way to take out pins, and this may only apply to people like me. I want to take my pins out, but I usually work on customs late at night or during baby naptime, both of which require me to not make a bunch of noise. I thought a good alternative to knocking out the pins would be to get a pin remover for watches. Well I paid a few bucks for one and it failed miserably, but I think the idea is still sound. The main reason it failed was because its just not heavy duty enough to push out the pins. I think I can build something that can push out he pins, free up a hand, offer more control, and do it quietly. The control and quiet part is what I'm most concerned with.