So who do you reckon is next? I would bet rat trap comes next seeing as he'd be less of a wallet smasher than rhinox or megs.

 

Well arent you alittle late to the MP Dinobot love-fest or what?!    
Enjoy your stay...  

 

It is probably the most epic moment in Transformers that I've ever seen but nah I just re-watched the episode. For anyone who wants the epic-ness without the emotional hell that comes with that episode, minutes 9:30 - 13:00 are where all the action takes place.

 

Well here's our first repaint option possibly. We are getting the season one rendering of Dinobot, keep in mind that is the best one to fit in with the season one cast. I was just watching Other Visits from season 2 and noticed the difference in the strip pattern on the chest. The image on the right is from episode 1 the one on the left is from other visits pt 1. I haven't checked to see what episode the change in Dinobots render occurred or if it's consistent but I'll check back after I've watched a few more eps from season 2.

edit: It seems there's three versions of Dinobots robot mode rendering. It's the same right up until his first appearance in season 2 where only the arms have the updated stripe design, then after other voices he has the updated stripe pattern on his chest aswell.

 

I'm thinking Megatron or Tigatron.

Megatron, because of designer interest and the fact he's just the logical next choice. he's going to sell well, he's Megatron and he turns into a T-Rex, he's just so awesome.

Tigatron seems like a good choice too. after all, he is just an oversized Cheetor retool. so he's going to be super easy to do. he would run for around the same as Primal too, so not that expensive either.

EDIT: just realized they don't really need to use a false head on Tigatron, so it might be a pretty serious retool.

personally, I want Megatron or Tarantulas- but that's just because he is my favourite S1 predacon. what a manic. he is just riding his own crazy vibe for the whole of Beast Wars, but being a descendant of Unicron I'm not at all surprised.

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on a different note, how about MP-1 as part of a beast wars collection? he's huge so he might actually scale well. does anyone have one and a Primal?

 

Not as serious as you'd think. Cheetor's fake cheetah head covers the real cheetah head.

 

Ha, maybe. It’s just surreal!

 

They would need a false head, as his head gets significantly squished in robot mode.

Tigatron's robot mode may basically be an upsides Cheetor, but their alt modes could not be more different in terms of size, shape, and proportions.

 

Also, tigatron's tiger eyes are orange in robot mode and green in beast mode, like cheetor.

And yeah his head gets squished a good bit so false head would be necessary for ULTIMATE SHOW ACCURACY.

 

Pinch youself hard... you really are not dreaming this is happening for realz.  

 

I don't know if the 'squish' is as big as you think. im rewatching season one, and I think they could use the same head. still, I wouldn't have an issue either way.

but yeah, the alt mode is bulky rather than sleek. so it's a pretty heavy retool we would be looking at here. but all the mechanics of the transformation, and a lot of the robot details would be reused.

I'm curious to see if he will get wrist rockets. it would be cool to see them. also, he never uses the butt gun- so idk how that will go.

it's going to be an involved and interesting retool to be sure.

 

I don't think that warrants a repaint. I think Grimlock is the obvious choice, everyone loves Grimlock

 

Correction. Everyone loves G1 grimlock. I don't think he'll have a repaint. With all the reasonable complaints about pricing(even at 200), why would they drop a similar amount of cash for an even more "obscure" character. BW grimlock is not g1 grimlock. Nostalgia is far less.

 

I feel like Dinobot wasn't afraid because he knew it was a suicide mission but he was also seeking redemption and a meaning to it all. By that point he'd fully committed to the Maximals and accepted he can never be a Predacon again. His betrayal left him more the outsider than he'd ever been so he was in a super dark and isolated headspace. But once his plan was set in motion, he had complete focus and finally found the higher purpose he'd been searching for. Fate had placed him in a position where he was the only one who could stop the Preds in time and although he often feared there was no such thing as choice if the future has already been foretold; I think he learned something profound in that by stopping the Preds, it may seem that nothing has changed and his actions were meaningless as the future would just play out like it's supposed to but he was the one choosing for it to be that way. He chose to accept fate which I think empowered him as if he had the whole universe on his side willig him to prevent Megatron's attempted destruction of the timeline. For a lame comparison, it's like when Harry Potter casts a full patronus at the lake to save himself. He knew it was meant to happen which allowed him to make it happen. We all know Dinobot likes a fight but his conviction was the real weapon which Quickstrike and Megatron were overlooking.

You know, I haven't actually watched Code of Hero for years and years because I just can't face it but I respect the episode and love Dinobot too much to just watch the cool fight scene without any of the build up. I know I'm gonna watch it before his MP comes out but I'll have to do the entire show from the beginning. That's just how it has to be for me. Hell, I'm not complaining; the more Beast Wars the better!

I definitely prefer the season one design. That's how I always envision Dinobot and the thinner stripes are just not prominent enough.

There's a lot of complaining that by pricing Dinobot where they have, TT are basically testing to see how much they can overcharge the collectors and, by Pre-Ordering him, we are collectively stating that 'go nuts, we'll pay whatever you say' therefore opening the floodgate to a universal price increase across the entire MP line; but perhaps there is a positive aspect to our willingness to pay this price for Dinobot... For one, it shows that we're committed to the line and pleased with what we're getting (I know I am) but it lets TT know that more Beast Wars figures are worth doing and worth doing right.
I believe, as a fandom, this is a particularly relevant message to send pertaining to how TT approach Tigatron who could certainly be half-assed as a repaint with some minor retooling for pure but that would be a monumental letdown and most likely backfire hard because I don't want a baby Tigatron at all. Even a whole new mold for Tigatron would probably only cost just a bit more than Primal which would still seem like a bargain after buying Dinobot so the way I'm looking at it now is that TT have no reason not to do Tigatron properly other than laziness and greed but, so far, the Beast Wars MPs have come across as more of a passion project than a cash grab to exploit a generation who are reaching the high-end-collectibles-purchasing age and the designer has even stated in interviews how he's determined to scale the figures according to the show. Taking that into account, I think the future's bright for Beast wars figures.
I know your comment isn't really about the pricing issues but the Tigatron debate always triggers me to try and justify TT him justice. Also; wrist rockets all the way!

 

Actually BW Grimlock is G1 Grimlock. Just reformatted much like BW Ravage is G1 Ravage. I see your point though. It is still quite obscure. Personally I think Shadow Panther has pretty good odds of being the next Beast Wars release as he could just be a straight repaint of Cheetor perhaps with a more toy accurate head.

 

Wait WHAAATT? FURREAL? That's weirdly amusing.

But yeah. If people have issues buying dinobot at that price, more people will have issues buying BW dinobot at that price.

 

i agree, the BW figures really do seem like a passion project. it’s part of the reason why i really do think we will get megatron next.

as far as the price goes, Dinobot actually runs for around the same as G1 Megatron, & Dinobot has a 100-times more complicated paint scheme, & electronics (with multiple eye colours i might add!). i actually don’t think he is expensive when you compare him to that figure. if anything i think he’s significantly better value than MP-36.

BW Megatron will be a bit more expensive, because of how huge he is. but the transformation & size leave a lot of room in the torso & dino head. so i’m expecting lights in the eyes, & in the beast mode mouth too, as well as potential sounds too. i would honestly be surprised if he doesn’t have a ‘YESSSS’ soundbyte. this figure will be an absolute centrepiece to any collection, im sure of it.

also, consider that a lot of us BW fans don’t buy G1 MP figures. so while we might buy one expensive figure (not actually that expensive when you think of MP-36), we don’t need to buy multiple car bot repaints & retools, as well as seeker sets. so overall a MP BW collection is going to be much cheaper.

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as far as Tigatron goes, it’s going to be an oversized Cheetor retool. there is no way they would be this specific about scale & show accuracy, then release a repaint with a different face for Tigatron. i just cant see them dropping the ball on him, it doesn’t make any sense.

i’m betting on wrist rockets too. it’s just too iconic of a moment when he blasts Megatron with them. plus the added size will give them room to incorporate them into the arm, or barring that as a plug on accessory.

i still think that Megatron followed by Tigatron (maybe in the same year even?) is the logical progression of the line. there really is no BW character left that has the popularity & selling power that megatron has.

Primal made sense as the first figure. he’s the ‘prime’, & he’s not too big so not too expensive. I feel like Cheetor was testing the water, to see if the fandom was keen enough for them to make the full set. he’s pretty small too, so it’s not a big deal if he were to fail. thankfully he didn’t.

so, now we have Dinobot. he’s a BIG figure, but he’s also the most popular & iconic character from beast wars. so if any big figure is going to pay off, it’s going to be Dinobot. i hope it does pay off for TT & they follow up with a Megatron. from that point onwards, the only big figure is Inferno- who would come down the line, if at all. everyone else is smaller than dinobot (with Inferno actually being about the same height) so they will all be under Dinobot’s price.

 

Name recognition alone is enough reason for a new release, even if it isn't the G1 design. and it has been established BW and G1 are the same guy. Some demand exists for a version of this character without gold plastic syndrome too.
If price is an issue then it would be fairly easy to drop a lot of the accessories: The base and Golden Disk wouldn't be needed. The laser effect and extra expressions he comes wouldn't be needed either, because if this does happen Takara would most likely give him a toy accurate head. If price is somehow still an issue they can always make him a limited release.
If Road Rage and Exhaust were viable (and with new parts/tooling to boot), then I don't see how Beast Wars Grimlock isn't.

I agree Shadow Panther is coming too. The line is due for another repaint and he's the only good choice right now other than Burning Primal

 

I'm thinking Rhinox. These pictures of the five Maximals together are just underlining how badly out of scale T30 Rhinox is. He's an eyesore, and I'm sure the Takara designers agree.

Agree. And Takara never released the original BW Grimlock. Japanese fans have no attachment there. Most people are far more likely to spend money on an in-show version of a character than a non-show and (for them) non-toy character. (See below.)

Honestly I don't think the accessories are adding any significant amount to the price. A release of this mold without any accessories would probably only drop a couple thousand yen. Road Rage and Exhaust worked because they were fairly cheap and based on Diaclone toys for which there was some nostalgia. (And Road Rage is still available from retailers after going through several sales.) BW Grimlock from this mold would be three times their price. I just don't see 90% of fans dropping that kind of money for him.

I posted this in the speculation thread about my best guess for a reuse of this mold: MP41C Code of Hero Dinobot. Battle damage deco and resculpted parts, shattered golden disc and stone axe accessories, maybe even a snake and a Neanderthal. And instead of a stand, that funeral pyre contraption from the last scene.

 

I really hope they don't do that, because then I'd want it.

I just really want that stone axe... and a 'shattered' golden disc that he can hold in both hands and use that eye beam accessory to recreate that one scene would be insane.