Takara-Tomy now participating in Unicron Crowd Fund

Discussion in 'Transformers News and Rumors' started by Gamerlingual, Jul 25, 2019.

  1. onnsake

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    And again, maybe I'm just biased cause I live in Japan...but think about that magazine that hit the stands here a few days after SDCC.

    A Japanese mazgazine (yes, people still buy and read magazines in Japan) isn't going to print that kind of detailed write up with beautiful photos and interviews, and then at the very end tag on "Oh by the way...unless 8000 people in another country buy this in one month, you'll never get it."

    That would be just insane.

    Now let's say there's an America-only release. There's lots of them. They'd probably print a small picture with a blurb that says "Look at this cool toy that was released at Botcon in America....go online and try to get one if you can!" and that would be it.

    But for them to have THAT level of promotion for something entirely contingent on JUST American buyers? I can't see that ever seeing print.
     
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  2. mcart

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    Liked and removed the like just so I could like again.

    Unicron is an inevitability. Nothing can stop his desti---

    Hey, keep that matrix away from him!
     
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    5217 yen vs 6853 yen, that's still a 30% markup, though.
    Unicron is 62488 yen in the states vs 75600 yen in Japan. That would be a 20% price difference. Not saying the takara release shouldn't be cheaper, however it is par for the course for them in my opinion.

    Wish we had a way to tell how many people have ordered in Japan so far.

    As @primalxconvoy said, Japanese apartments are generally pretty tiny and cramped! God knows I don't have space for a 70cm room mate in my 1 room apartment.
     
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    IgnikaMarcus DON'T TRUST THE RENDERS!

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    *Starts pulling matrix open*
     
  5. mcart

    mcart I'm not fat, it's Prime Armor

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    Oh crap, who gave that guy The Touch?!
     
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    IgnikaMarcus DON'T TRUST THE RENDERS!

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    Better question.
    Who's playing that ill fitting song?

    *shuts off music*

    Now then, where was I?
    Oh, right!
    *continues opening matrix*
     
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    Takara and overpriced.

    Name a more iconic duo
     
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    You know the only man that can rock THE TOUCH.

     
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    Siiiiiigh.


    I'm gonna end up buying this. I know I am. I know I'm too weak to resist.

    I'm gonna hem and haw about it for a month and at the last minute I'll do it.

    Shit.
     
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    Does this mean, once it gets the green light, it will become a mass market product at a higher price?
     
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    I agree with every word you said. Very wise and very well said.
     
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    backers or not i have a feeling they will release this no matter what, would be foolish not to
     
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    On what grounds?

    In the position they're in right now, cancelling the project can be chalked up under acceptible losses. Putting themselves a couple million in the hole, after being shown that there isn't enough demand to sell through all their units, that's foolhardy.

    You're operating under the sunk-cost fallacy - that they've already invested time and money, might as well go all the way. But the fact is, there's even more time and significantly more money that go to waste if they go off half-cocked and push this through the finishing line without the proper insurance in place.
     
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  15. [Wing_Saber-X]

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    Get off my lawn?
     
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    Transformers fans and self-entitled whining?
     
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    i think you underestimate the fans and the brand in itself. Trypticon was the weakest of the titans that's been released and that still sold well. for the size of the toy, it's only 100 lucks more than mp44 and people grabbed that one up. It's a fair assestment that they don't want to spend x amount of dollars to see it fail, but it's takara/hasbro, they have enough fans and advertising, plus it cost much less than third party combiners etc, and i for one like many that collect official and third party will get it.
     
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    Is everyone gonna have their buttholes all clenched tight for the next month?

    Relax. Please. This isn't going to fail.

    Orders from Japan and Asia alone have probably already funded it, and if not yet, they will by the deadline.

    Chill out.
     
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  19. mx-01 archon

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    I don't think you understand the way that the production pipeline works. In a typical retail scenario, Hasbro will produce their 10,000 units, which the retailers order. Done deal. Hasbro's made their sale. They don't need to worry about the logistics of selling the individual units, or potentially having to clearance them out, or whatever.

    In this case, though, with no retailer backing, Hasbro assumes all the risk. If they can't sell all 8,000 units, that's on them to foot the bill on warehousing costs and all manner of extra expenses until they do. They could foot all those extra costs, plus the main cost of going to production in the first place, on a gamble, and incur the wrath of the shareholders. Or they could cut their losses, lick their wounds over the thousands of dollars they spent on R&D, and just move on with their lives.


    I personally fully expect this project to succeed, so the point will be moot. But this conspiracy theorizing has to stop. This crowdfund is in place for a reason, and isn't about putting on airs or whatever.
     
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  20. SaintsIconsNemesis

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    I do not disagree with anything you have put forward. Makes sense. I just think for a project like this they will move forward with it. Having the backers merely will justify their reason for doing it and I think they do it to test the fans to see how far they can push the boundaries. I really hope they make it and yes I am one of the backers so I want them to succeed at all cost
     
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