Studio Series 86 Revealed

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  1. OCDChad

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    yeah why call it the movie version then not make him smooth like the movie
     
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    I honestly don’t mind the surface detailing on the SS86 Dinobots… I love both figures to death, but their animation models border on bland-looking, with how blocky and flat they are. They definitely don't rank among the more interesting Sunbow designs.

    IMO, the greebling on Grimlock and Slug is tastefully done, and helps break up the otherwise blocky designs. Had Hasbro gone with 100% G1 accuracy, they likely would've turned out pretty boring-looking.
     
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    I can say the same especially with them changing Grimlock chest from yellow to a soft gold, to me it makes it look so much better than just a flat yellow, sure it ain’t accurate but it looks great
     
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    and they just threw some shit on greebled to hell WFC Starscream and called it SS86

    seems like the Dinos were meant to be WFC, but Jazz, Scourge, and the others were really meant for SS86
     
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    All of SS86s 1st wave (maybe even 1st 2 waves) were developed as WFC figures before getting shunted to Studio Series
     
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    Yeah some of those guys were gonna be in kingdom before BW took over their slots. SS86 is a nice accommodation for them anyway.
     
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    How do we know that? If so, what the hell happened to Slag then? He's covered in greeble.
     
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    Slag is in the 2nd "wave" of SS86, which also includes Gnaw, who started life as a design developed for the WFC Earthrise fan vote. How we know that SS86 was originally WFC designs is multipronged.
    1. Leakers have said as much
    2. It's logical considering Scourge/Sweeps, Kup, Blurr, Hot Rod, Wreck-Gar, Dinobots and Jazz are in SS86 (alongside WFC ER Starscream with accessories as King Starscream) and then in Kingdom you have Galvatron, Rodimus Prime, Ultra Magnus and Cyclonus. All of these figures are intended to go together, hence why the SS86 stuff isn't all smooth surfaces.
     
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    I feel like regardless of which line the Dinobots were intended for, Hasbro would’ve added the greebling in either case. Heck, all the other SS86 releases have a healthy amount of mechanical detailing and panel lines as well.

    Replicating cheaply-drawn 2D animation models into plastic toy form with 100% accuracy isn’t exactly the best idea.
     
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    The sales on Masterpiece figures seem to counter that idea to me.
     
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    and how do those sales numbers compare to Generations figures?
     
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    I have no idea. Perceptor and Sweep sold out on Hasbro Pulse the first day, but then again so did Coronation Starscream that has greebling all over.
     
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    Yeah, and as a result, most of the newer Takara MPs look hopelessly bland to me. I much prefer the level of detailing these newer WFC-era figures provide.
     
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    So then logically, if the greebled Generations figures sell out day 1 but the smooth surfaced cartoon style MP figures don't, then the assertion that replicating the smooth surfaced cartoon designs not being the best idea does hold merit. Granted that doesn't factor in the price differential, but I think it's pretty safe to say that globally Generations moves more units than MP does.
     
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    I think the figures with a better reasonable price point will move more units then a more expensive line like MP.
     
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    I don't put Perceptor and Sweep in that category. I think they look pretty good.
     
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    Those both have a fair amount of molded greeble on them
     
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    I always find the 2D argument a weird one. It implies that things drawn in 2D should never be made into 3D. In that logic Marvel Legends should never be made. Which would be a shame because there are some nice figures in there. And we shouldn't forget that before the wide spread use of computers everything was designed on paper, which is 2D by its very nature. This resulted in some great toys, but also buildings, cities parks etc.

    Also the cheap element. The original cartoon wasn't made any cheaper than a cyberverse, wfc or beast wars. They always try to produce these shows with the least possible amount of effort (=money). That's why they went non union with the voice actors in wfc and we hardly see any transformations in the show.
     
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