Discussion in 'Transformers Toy Discussion' started by OptimusTimelord, Oct 7, 2014.
Cross replying, but this is still beautiful work!
Magic! Witchcraft even!!
Did... did you cheat the side panels in earlier than they should’ve been? And the way the cab drops over the thighs, even though they should be out of sight by then as well... brilliant!
With this it will always be the 35th anniversary.
Not as bad as I was expecting, it reminded me of things like Badcube where I just skip lots of stuff and cheat the rest. The overall time in front of the camera is increased because of all the extra steps (no joke: I actually had to have a lunch break halfway through! ), which is not ideal.
Yes if you watch it frame by frame there are some subtle transition elements added to help sell the false transformation, including adding parts of the side panel and wipers early.
I did cheat the thighs of MP-10 when I made the same gif of him too, though I think it was less noticeable with more going on in his mid section.
As I suspected, the truth behind the Magic is 'Work'.
Well, even more work!
Amazing, Rich, both the dedication and the result!
Btw if anyone was wondering, I didn't use the season one head for several reasons. Firstly, I don't really like how it looks (doesn't nail the TV appearance the way the S2 head nails that later look), secondly I always preferred that chunkier movie head design anyway, and thirdly I don't consider Prime to have had literal different heads in the canon of the show - just different artistic choices in how he was drawn (for example I believe we saw flashbacks in later episodes of G1 where he has the chunky head).
Notes on the animation: there's a single weird frame at the very start of the transformation where Prime's torso seemingly jumps upwards briefly. I left that out of my original MP-10 gif as I wasn't sure if it was a toon error, but I decided to give it a try here and it seems to work ok. Was it a deliberate choice by the original animators?
Normally I replace the toon insignia (puttup) especially the Decepticon one. For some reason (maybe cos it's an outline?) this doesn't look as odd to my eye, so I've left it as it came.
Lastly I note that, like the running transformation in the S1 end credits, the cel animation for this scene has the grey stripe around the cab mode. I kinda miss that on MP-44 (not enough to consider adding it back on!). Reminds me of the G1 toy and I think alt mode is a little too plain without it. Also speaking of plain, you may notice I added silver detail to the wipers and handrails of my MP-44 cab. Was tempted to do the entire window frames, but the way they break up would probably make a silver line look wonky, not to mention the chances of it rubbing when they turn inside out.
It could be an intentional "Smear" frame to add motion and smooth out the look over all?
I don't know. Here's the sequence:
It could just be that the cel was misplaced, or something to do with it being the first frame of the camera tilt. I don't see how it would smooth anything. But perhaps it adds a dynamic start to the transformation?
Maybe "smooth" is the wrong discriptor to use? I'm not saying it's definitely deliberate but if it is perhaps it is meant to add a more natural feel to the motion and mask the artifice of the animation?
It's a mystery... So far nobody has noticed/objected to it in the MP-44 gif though!
Meanwhile here's a look at one of my doctored frames. Added wipers, alt grill on torso, wheel emerging from hip...
As a kid I always imagined it as him standing up on his tip toes to initiate the transformation!
Maybe the animator were implying that OP was transforming his toes?
Did you paint the wipers, or just recolor in PS?
That works I guess
I wish I had the balls to take a sharpie to a $400 figure.
Must have required an insane amout of cheating.
Doesn't really matter, looks so good who care about them cheats
You really are an awesome animator
I normally would have used paint, but my silver has dried up! Sharpie works temporarily but tends to come off as you handle a figure. I'm sure if I wanted I could remove it all in no time.
Thanks dude! There was no way I was ever going to pull that off with no cheats
Big fan of yours man. I just want to share this with you. My first time doing a stop motion. Cheers
Very smooth! I'd say you could probably lose a few of those frames at the beginning just to tighten it up, but the actual transformation is great
I find that holding a shot for a moment gives the animation more impact when it happens, that's why most of my transformation gifs start and end with duplicated/extended frames even when the toon version cuts close to the action .
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