Anyone else realize the only green lightsaber we see in this whole trilogy was in the flashback with a a young Luke. I know it does not really matter but I wish Rey or Klyo used Luke's green lightsaber in the end just to break up the colors a little bit.

 

I wish they used Luke's green lightsaber from the beginning in TFA. Anakin's second lightsaber was like an afterthought in both the OT and PT. So much so, that Lucas forgot Obi-Wan has said Anakin wanted Luke to have it when in reality, he just took it from Anakin's burning body.

 

I finally watched The Rise of Skywalker the other day... it is total nonsense. However I was most offended by the Emperor totally ripping off Beast Machines Megatron's method of locomotion.

 

I'm just thinking back to an April Fools joke I shared last year and how much I prefer it over what we got even though it's all bullshit

 

That was honestly one of the best jokes I’ve seen in a long time and yeah to be honest it would’ve been better than what we ultimately got.  

OUR WORLDS ARE IN DANGER

 

TO SAVE THEM AND the franchise THE GALAXY WE MUST FIND THE FOUR KYBER CRYSTAL KEYS BEFORE THE FIRST ORDER CAN USE THEM FOR EVIL.
It is our mission.

imagine if the dagger Abrams came up with for IX was actually four different keys. it's already serrated, and when you put it into Rey's parents, it unlocks their deaths  

 

Finally got to see Rise of Skywalker.

This movie has the life, action, feel and ante I was wanting for the sequel trilogy.

Force Awakens was good, solid sure, but its nothing more then A New New Hope and once you know the setup of characters, there's nothing new or interesting to re-watch it. I liked The Last Jedi, to me it feels like Star Wars, but upon rewatching it, the pacing and stakes are a slow burn. With various issues (not including Luke's decision or Holdo, I don't have problems with them, although if Ackbar replaced Holdo for her final role I'd be for it). The Last Jedi also suffering from very non-star warsy alien designs to me. Though I do love the Fathiers

It may have been fast paced, but it kept me hooked and everything I was seeing just felt like the feeling you get watching the prequels, its just enough out there with new concepts. Sure they still relied on using similar plot points of the OT like this trilogy has done. Such as Lando serving almost the exact same roles (saves heroes in disguise, flies Falcon in final battle). I liked the new alien designs much more then what we saw in Last Jedi, only gripe is that we should of had more aliens in the spotlight as characters but that's me.

Sidious' comeback and his actions I thought were handled great and really took him to the next step. Honestly though this movie feels like its the new trilogy by itself, that TFA and TLJ could have almost been 1 movie and have the Final Order be the main villains for rest of the trilogy.

The main crew dynamic was great and fun to watch as well.

My main gripes with the film is that C-3PO saying goodbye to his friends should have been to the OT Crew, or at least a scene where through C-3PO we see the main characters of the PT and OT, as visual recordings. Then being interrupted by Poe.

The other gripes are again, a few main plot points are too similar to Return of the Jedi, the Knights of Ren are reduced to silent roles and just show up at the beginning. Rey being a Palpatine, I feel like should have been more to the point of her being a clone of Palpatine he created, or least kinda give us one moment of stating when along the line Palpatine had a son, but that would of been blatant exposition nonetheless.

Still feel like he ended hooking up with Sly Moore.

But anyways, ya I liked this film and to me is what the sequel trilogy should of been as a whole. Definitely the definitive ST movie to me.

In current rankings I'd place it in my top 5.

9/10

 

It’s a lot of fun.

 

Red discusses sequels in general, but it focuses a lot on the ST since, as she puts it, it is a perfect bad example when it comes to sequels.

 

Yea, I suppose the sequel trilogy is a lot of fun if you watch it as a cynical bastard who finds this whole trilogy to be a hilariously broken disasterpiece.

In that way, it was a lot of fun. Now, where's the real sequel trilogy, Disney? You've had your joke trilogy, let's see the real thing.

 

True, while I could accept the first two movies, Episode 9 resets the status quo from the end of Episode 6, just with different people. The evil emperor's defeated, the lieutenant dies redeemed after saving the hero, who celebrates with their friends having settled their identity issues and resolved to follow the noble path as did their mentors and the lieutenant. If the Sequel Trilogy ultimately can't take the Star Wars story beyond where it was originally, then what's the point?

Spoiler

Same reason I don't care for Terminator Dark Fate. The other sequels aren't up to par with the first two films, but at least they advanced the ideas of the two films, to the point that fate was proven malleable in Genesys when it gave Kyle and Sarah a happy ending, something they didn't have before. Dark Fate just reset Sarah to her status at the end of the first movie, but now it's not her kid.

 

Finally saw it myself the other night. I absolutely loved it.

 

This is one of my two main problems with the sequel trilogy (the other being the treatment of Luke Skywalker). While the OT gave us Star Wars in the first place, and the prequels did a great job world building and giving us different stories than the original movies, the sequels didn't really move beyond remaking "the rebels vs the empire" with a new paint job, calling them the resistance versus the First Order. The sequels feel like they just tried to remake the originals in so many ways. Overall they added very little that was new to the overall Star Wars story.

We had a complete story with episodes 1 through 6, and it still feels that way to me. 7-9 were just not needed unless they had come up with a new angle, which they did not.

 

The original trilogy is about the restoration of democracy, and the prequel trilogy is about the fall of democracy, so naturally the sequel trilogy should be about the preservation of democracy, right? We should see the New Republic through its darkest days, but it should ultimately triumph in the end. Instead, the New Republic is basically destroyed halfway through the first movie in the trilogy and we retread the 'restoration of democracy' stuff from the original trilogy.

 

Interesting. I'd believe Doomcock over that idiot Mike Zeroh any day.

 

Nicely stated. I think that's exactly what I would like to have seen, with Luke, Leia and Han fighting to preserve their hard won victory alongside the new characters. That would at least have added a solid philosophical theme underlying the action and adventure instead of the aimless retread of the OT that we got, and it would have brought something new to the table and given the sequel trilogy a reason to exist beyond just "make more Star Wars, make more money."

 

This sums it up nicely.