Star Wars - Are the prequels better than the Disney films?

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Star Wars - Are the prequels better than the Disney films?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

    38 vote(s)
    42.2%
  3. I like both

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    8.9%
  4. I dislike both

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  5. I like and dislike a mixture of films in both series

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  1. DarkEnergon22

    DarkEnergon22 Well-Known Member

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    Overall I would say yes.

    Rose has taken over Jar Jar as the worst Star Wars character.

    Even Jar Jar manages to help the gungans win against the battle droids.

    Rose just gets everyone killed.

    I prefer Revenge of The Sith over the Disney films.
     
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  2. GuardianAngel87

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    To be quite frank, yes.
     
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    I dunno... JarJar is pretty annoying... but so is Rose. But JarJar more so.
    Senator JarJar cast a crucial (and very detrimental vote), and Rose set the Resistance up to get wiped out.

    I’d have to go back and re-watch RotS to see if it was any better than TLJ.
     
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    Jesus Christ, no.

    It's interesting that the people who were kids when the prequels came out are now adults (not saying the OP is this but I'm making an observation). And it's depressing that they now sincerely believe the prequels are better films in any way than either the OT or the Disney era films. At least when the OT fans bitch about things changing, they're remembering actually good films.

    Like seriously. Jar-Jar? Better than Rose (who I can certainly see arguments for her being an average at best character)? Jesus.
     
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  5. Rodimus74

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    Both Rose and Finn are annoying. I was so hoping Finn would be killed in TLJ.
     
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    It depends on what aspect of the films one is talking about.

    I'd say the acting is typically better in the new films, BUT the prequels also have damn fine and underrated performances from Ewan McGregor and Christopher Lee.

    Visually, the new films are better, BUT the prequels also were made many years ago, so CGI and visuals have naturally progressed since then. Likewise, I think Boga in RotS and those gladiatorial beasts in AotC are more alien and cooler than anything in the new films.

    Where the prequels are undoubtedly better is the fictional universe they make. At least they tried bringing Star Wars into a new (or rather earlier) era, as opposed to the new films being the OT 2.0. That's even without The Clone Wars animated series.

    I do think Luke's story in TLJ is better than any single character's story in the prequels, but the fictional universe it takes place in is not.

    And Palpatine's rise is much more interesting than Snoke's apparent demise.
     
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  7. bellpeppers

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    Let’s see here... in TPM the detour to the Gungan City was a nonsensical plot point that disrupted the momentum of the film, which is pretty equivalent to the detour the plot took to the casino in TLJ. Unlike TLJ, something actually came out of that annoying detour.

    Sooo...+1 for the prequels?

    I agree with virtually everything you say here.
     
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    Realistically speaking, it should be "no".

    However there are aspects from the prequel trilogy that are better than what the sequel trilogy does.

    -The prequels give so much attention to the planets including veteran planet Tatooine. We learn from the planet about the slavery, the businesses and of course recreation activities like pod-racing.... Yes I said that.

    -When we visit planets like Naboo, Coruscant and even worlds like Mustafar I got more lore out of those places compared to the ones Disney introduced.
    I honestly can't remember too much about Jakku other than being similar to Tatooine. Takodana is mostly forgettable to me. Ahch-To was the best to me but even then it didn't overwhelm me.

    -That's the same with the new alien species introduced also. We get new species like Gungans, Nemoidians but there's still an abundance of other species like Twi'Leks or Rodians around to remind us about the universe.

    -The prequels were intended by Lucas as an opportunity to experiment with CGI, which unfortunately wasn't perfect yet. When it was perfect, it can do wonders.
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    Also yes, they still built miniatures for some things so it's not like CGI is used entirely.


    -I will say TLJ did have some striking imagery. But prequels to me have mastered some stunning imagery that adds more to why they were visually appealing.
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    Sorry if these pictures take up too much space but those are some highlights from the prequels. I'm sure there's more to come.:wink: 
     
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  9. bellpeppers

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    I wish AotC and RotS had 3D conversions.
    Those films did have some spectacular imagery.
     
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    I certainly like the prequels better. There were some really dumb moments, but they were fun to watch. They were memorable. They had great ideas. Great ideas that would be later done better with cartoons, games and comic books.

    I still remember the opening scene to Episode 3. It was a visual masterpiece. It was an epic space battle right on top of the city world. It also had the really awesome lava planet battle. Along with the Grievous/Obi Wan dual. It had that wookie war with the droids.

    It took us to new exciting worlds. It took us to Star Wars like we had never seen before. Wars happening across the galaxy. All at the same time. Which is what the Clone Wars series did even better. Both of them.

    The prequels did a far better job at lore building. At creating new creatures, new worlds, new everything, really. So far the new movies have created nothing. And that is my problem with them. They are basically nothing. They are not anything Star Wars should was, not even with the prequels. They are just nothing.

    And, like I said in another thread, I've seen Disney do Star Wars better than this. Twice this year. With the Marvel films. Both Thor 3 and Guardians do a much better job at world building. At exploring the lore. At creation creatures. At creating spectacular battles in both space, and on the ground.

    So far the only thing really new the new movies have done, is that bomber scene. A bomber scene that was done much better in clone wars.

    So yea, I do prefer the prequels over the Disney films. I very much do.
     
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    IMO, yes.

    But it's worth noting that the prequels were building up to events in the original trilogy, so they had a sort of foundation to work on.

    The Disney films are trying the approach of new territory by sweeping away the past, with mixed results IMO.
     
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    By rehashing the past tho...
     
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    Why no poll? Surely the only benefit to having this as a separate thread from all the other currently still active Star Wars threads is that we could get some kind of answer to this question. Sorry to sound suspicious and cynical but I kind of suspect that the author of the opening post already knows that theirs is an unpopular opinion and which way the results would go as the prequels are viewed by many as some of the worst blockbusters ever. It would be nice if the author of the opening post could prove me wrong and add a poll.

    That said now that I no longer have to sit through those god awful prequels I can kind of appreciate aspects of there world building and designs from afar but you could say the same about many other genre blockbuster misfires.
     
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    Could you please explain what you mean by that? Because TLJ went out of its way with its theme of "letting the past die, kill it if you have to"?
     
  15. DarkEnergon22

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    I added a poll.
     
  16. Pravus Prime

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    The prequels are trash IMHO.

    Seriously. Trash.

    So anything that's coherent wins by default.
     
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    Fantastic. Sorry again for the earlier suspicion
     
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    Purple Heart Some other time..

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    Yes and no.
    As far as being good solid movies go, the Disney movies win. But in terms of being Star Wars movies, the prequels also win. Despite some of the things in the prequels they still manage to have that unique Star Wars feel, something the new trilogy abandons. The prequels also has a lot of lore and attention to detail. With Lucas’s movies everyone has a story, even if they are just there, they have a story. With the new trilogy it’s just cool and there, it may have more lore later but it’s mostly just there for flash.

    Another thing the prequels have, despite not having the best main lead and many forced kiddie moments, is that they are in a way really genius. I’m not defending George Lucas and saying he’s a mastermind, but beneath those movies is a much deeper story that didn’t really rear it’s head until ROTS, and was only now really vocaly adressed in TLJ by Luke. The fall of the Jedi and how they essentially created Darth Vader. TLJ is amazing in my book, and TFA is also very good, but only TLJ really feels like it has that depth of story, that theme to it. TFA did but only really with the scene of Han’s death.
     
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    As a list of plot points on paper, the prequels win by a huge margin. Much better than episodes 8 & 9.

    But in terms of actual execution -- constant cringe-worthy dialogue, wooden acting, inept direction, misjudged decisions at every turn -- the prequels are such a calamity of biblical proportions that the Disney movies can't help but be better simply by default.

    On a side note, I'm surprised by the Rose backlash. But even if someone doesn't love her, saying she's anywhere near as bad as Jar Jar is disingenuous.
     
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  20. Pravus Prime

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    Wow, people don't like Rose? I'm honestly surprised, I felt she was one of the better characters in the movie.
     
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