Star Trek Beyond (2016)

Discussion in 'Movies and Television' started by QLRformer, Jul 13, 2013.

  1. Altered Prime

    Altered Prime Well-Known Member

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    hes right on that

    JJ's enterprise was built in a different year then the original
    built in a different location then the original
     
  2. Altered Prime

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    hardly
    no bell bottoms
    command color is yellow and not greenish

    yes, fyi, the original command deportment color was greenish not yellow, film tech of the time made it look yellow
     
  3. CKPRIME

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    That's what the word ALMOST, means. Also, the pants are bell bottoms, they are bloused.
     
  4. Altered Prime

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    the nu trek uniform are not bell bottomed or call it folded
    original trek uniform pants were
     
  5. CKPRIME

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    Yeah, It was supposed to say aren't. The TOS pants aren't bell bottoms.
     
  6. Hazekiah

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    While we're on the subject of the meaning of the word "almost," do you SERIOUSLY think anyone would NOT recognize the general design of ALL the Enterprise flagships as being exactly that? Come on now. An Enterprise is an Enterprise is an Enterprise.

    Seems a bit nitpicky.

    :P
     
  7. Altered Prime

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    im no seamstress so i may be useing the wrong word
     
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    Gordon_4 The Big Engine

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    Don't you be smack talking Picard's Enterprise.

    I may be showing my TOS ignorance here, but I thought the Warp Core, and by extension Engineering, was located in the bottom of the body of the ship halfway between the shuttlebay and the deflector array, not the neck.
     
  10. Sparky Prime

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    Before the refit, yeah. But in the films, the new vertical warp core on the refit Enterprise ran through the neck of the ship with main engineering now located behind the top half of the deflector array.
     
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    is it wrong that my first reaction to this is to say "That's fucking absurd"?
     
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    As opposed to TOS where it's on deck 2, deck 3, deck 5, or deck 11? Depending on where the writer or set dressers decided it was going to be that episode. And keep in mind that one thing that was consistent was the bridge being deck 1. Plus the housing for the warp core in the refit doubles as a support structure.

    But here's a colour break down of the internals of Constitution refit:
    https://lcarsgfx.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/proxima-msd-lrg_blg.png

    Any internals of the pre-refit constitution class that came after the movie moved engineering close to where the refit engineering was. Deck 19 specifically.
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-zcLQXWG5h...r+Darkly+Constitution+class+cross+section.jpg
     
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    I'm not saying the writers didn't play fast and loose with shit, it's just that particular part of the ship seems to be the least appropriate in my mind for the engineering section and warp core to be.
     
  14. Sparky Prime

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    From that schematic, what would become the refit's main engineering is listed as "auxiliary control". Main engineering is over where the nacelle pylons connect to the engineering hull.

    But anyway, I'd have to say having the warp core run through the neck of the ship is no more absurd than having the bridge at the top of the saucer section. In the middle of the bullseye so to speak.
     
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    Yeah but from a visual design standpoint you can look at it and go 'Yeah, that's about right' with the bridge - but only from a visuals perspective.
     
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    I never bought the warp core ran through the neck. It simply doesn't make sense. Those cut away views are non canon as well.
     
  17. Sparky Prime

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    I'd have to say having the warp core run almost the entire height of the ship is pretty impressive looking, from a visual design standpoint. It's really no different for the bridge being at the top of the saucer. There's not really a practical reason for it to be there, but it looks impressive.

    Why doesn't it make sense for the warp core to go through the neck? It's as good a place as any if you ask me. And actually, that pre-refit cross-section image is from the canon. It was shown in the Enterprise episode "In a Mirror Darkly", used for the USS Defiant. The refit image is at least based on materials from the canon. They gave us a pretty detailed look at the refit design in the films.
     
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    Except it does, and they are canon. Watch Wrath of Khan, the warp core is right where that cut away diagram shows it to be. And the cut away of the Constitution (specifically the Defiant) is from Enterprise.


    The bridge of a starfleet ship is no more exposed than the bridge of a actual warship.
     
  19. Sparky Prime

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    True, but the difference is that there's a practical reason for an actual warship bridge to be so exposed... They need to have windows with a clear vantage point to be able to see what they're doing. A starship in Star Trek on the other hand, at least prior to the reboot universe, didn't have an actual window for the viewscreen. They could have had the bridge in the middle of the ship and it really wouldn't have made a difference, other than making the bridge less vulnerable to attack. That's actually why the viewscreen in the reboot universe became a window, the creators were trying to find a way to justify the placement of the bridge at the top of the saucer.
     
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    The entire ship doesnt make any sense, it never has.