SS86 Springer in-hand images

Discussion in 'Transformers News and Rumors' started by linkinparkirony, May 14, 2024.

  1. linkinparkirony

    linkinparkirony #1 NFT Hater

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  2. BethCyra

    BethCyra I NEED MP BiG CONVOY (Rumored)

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    Okay look this isn’t even meant to be hate…those accessories are so bad they take away from the product.

    The sea foam green hammer, the plasticie nature of the missiles…this just seems like a constant stream of trying to make G1 work but it feeling muted/bland when IDW made him so much more vibrant.

    That said clearly not for me, and I hope that people love it.
     
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  3. Banshee

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    Yup, perfectly fine with my Wrecker Springer.
     
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  4. linkinparkirony

    linkinparkirony #1 NFT Hater

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    Yeah the hammer looks bad. Like a 3d printed custom. even they admitted it was an afterthought. The two smaller guns are carryovers from the Siege tooling so that would explain why they look so out of place compared to his other accessories.
     
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  5. Relic Hunter

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    We know that Voyagers can be retooled and still be Voyager price, so the extra parts can't cause a leap in price especially since it's a retail slot and not an exclusive slot. Even exclusives get retools such as Ferak, without an increase in price. So the base figure is totally $35 simply because it's a mostly surface level retool of another $35 figure and the engineering can't be used as an excuse for a similar reason.

    That leaves the accessories to fill out the $60 price tag, meaning the few extra accessories cost $25

    Would you buy this in a Deluxe box?

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  6. octobotimus

    octobotimus Bad company ruins good morals

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    I recall people saying it would be some insane super complex retool with tons of extra engineering. As predicted it’s literally just the voyager with some mild retooling and a bunch of crap thrown in the box.

    Cool for those that like it, but it’s embarrassing that this took up a leader class slot.
     
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    Did they seriously keep the rear wheels as clip-ons?

    Jesus.
     
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    The back doesn’t stay jutting out like that, right? It’s mistransformed, right?
     
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  9. Rakzo

    Rakzo Peruvian Transformers Fan

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    Is pretty clear this is a heavy retool since this had to incorporate a new chest, new shoulders that allow for more flexibility and accuracy to the 86 movie, new forearms that include the wheels, new arm parts to include the little guns in them, new articulated hands and of course, new headsculpt (that's without mentioning that all of this makes the figure taller). You can complaint about the price all you want but you can't deny there was a lot of new moulding here and is stuff that definitely puts it beyond the Voyager Class budget of the original (especially considering that Siege Springer was kinda pushing it even at the time).

    The extra accessories do help to add value to the package since all of them are fitting for Springer and they could be easily sold by a 3P at $25+ (and probably with worse printed quality). This honestly is an overall much more justifiable Leader Class Triple Changer than either Legacy Blitzwing or even Sandstorm.
     
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  10. Relic Hunter

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    This is somehow more extensive but it wasn't bumped up to Leader

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    Genuinely, how could anyone possibly defend the price of SS86 Springer
     
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  11. Rakzo

    Rakzo Peruvian Transformers Fan

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    It is not since it doesn't have extra parts that actually transform.
     
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  12. Missing Sunset

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    Keep in mind, a retool implies swapping new parts for the old ones instead of adding new parts with the old ones present. That’s the main difference between Springer and Scrapheap. The idea is that this figure adds new parts that push it out of the parts count of the voyager tier.

    Do I think that’s worth such a substantial price increase? Remains to be seen, but it’s iffy. But the base robot is outside of the voyager price. It’s just a question of if it’s truly close enough to the leader standard.
     
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  13. Neko-bot77

    Neko-bot77 Face it, we're doomed.

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    I'm digging this. Hope they tweaked everything from the waist down to strengthen the joints. My Siege version likes to fall over.
     
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    They added new parts, I'll concede that, but that is simply nowhere near Leader price at all

    And no, those accessories don't help either, literally two new accessories (bomb and grenade) probably cost $2 to make
     
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  15. linkinparkirony

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    there's also the new blade/sword (which has to change between the sword and helicopter blades mind you), the animation accurate sword, the animation accurate blaster.. plus i don't see a grenade anywhere.
     
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  16. Dome Zero

    Dome Zero Kup and Hot Rod just bought it!

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    I hope his backpack tabs in somewhere this time. That drives me nuts with the Siege figure.
     
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    Nah. It's the other way around. Those two hold overs actually look good. It's the new stuff that looks out of place, like some sort of 3rd party "upgrade" kit.
     
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  18. ScorponokIsHere

    ScorponokIsHere He is Arrived Indeed

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    It's the same nylon sprue as the new hands and thighs.
     
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    I'm on the fence.
    The improvements are clearly there.
    But they're mostly just the most obvious ones, and basically none of the ones I wanted to see.

    What would tip the scale for me is if the stupid backpack can actually plug in securely.

    And even then, the price is too high for what we're getting.

    This is the second time I've seen someone say it has new forearms.
    The forearms are identical.
    I think you mean it has new upper-arms.
     
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  20. Noideaforaname

    Noideaforaname Pico, let's go up to Zuma

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    I miss when "Voyager+" Leader meant this:
    777px-SS-Leader-DOTM-Optimus-Prime.jpg
     
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