Spoilers recap from setvisits

Discussion in 'Transformers Movie Discussion' started by Red Goblin, Dec 5, 2016.

  1. AOEGalvatronRox

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    "Hooligan is a reused model of Crowbar, and Onslaught is a reused model of Long Haul" So I'm assuming they might die in this movie? Otherwise, why would they reuse old character models, especially ones that are 5 to 6 years old?
     
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    How would you know if they do die in TLK? Robot character design similarities are no indication of any crucially secretive plot details.
     
  3. daniel 97

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    So apperanlty according to IMDB, Mark Ryan plays a "Director Special Forces". This might very well be a rumor, but if it is true does this mean he is actually playing a human in this one?
     
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    I don't definitively think they're going to die. They may not be in the movie that much. I'm just basing my argument off of the Deceptions in DOTM that were reused character models (i.e Brawl, Sideways, Long Haul). Then there's Optimus. When he was the flat nose truck at the beginning of AOE, they just reused his character model from the first three films rather than making a new one because he didn't have the flat nose truck mode for that long. Just seems kind of funny that they would reuse models for new characters rather than create new ones.
     
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    They may very well die but if they do, it won't be till the 3rd act when the movie goes to the U.K. As some of their scenes that their vehicles were filmed in were meant to be in the U.K.

    They could be using older character models for 2 reasons. Bay said himself that he did not find vehicles for Hooligan and Onslaught till the last minute in pre-production. So it could be that looks for them had to be thrown together just as quickly, MAYBE.

    And the other reason is that those designs are really great designs that we the fans said were great and didn't want them to continue on web the sleek slender "everyone has to look human" robot looks. And they did say that they are mixing it up and bringing back the hard angle, vehicle kibble looks for a lot of TFs.
     
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    For any of the designs to be re-used I'm glad it's Long Haul's.
     
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    I can see it happening already: legions of people complaining that some of the new Cons look like old ones.
    For future reference, "G1 did it too!" is a good clapback.
     
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    Regarding the new cons having a lot of the same design elements from past decepticons I wonder if they'll try to explain that in the movie like perhaps Cybertronians can sometimes share the same body design with some or no differences to them. Sort of like how Animated did it.
     
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    So you'd rather defend model reuse by once again comparing to a cheap 1980's cartoon produced on a rushed schedule to the point it is infamous for animation errors galore, as opposed to the fact the movies have been doing this anyway since ROTF and Clonecrusher?
     
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    I'm fine with them having designs heavily based on ROTF and DOTM designs for Onslaught and Hooligan. I just hope we get some interaction between Megatron, Barricade, Onslaught, and maybe some others.

    I'm not really too crazy about Mohawk, who is the motorcycle, having a Frenzy-like design since Frenzy is my least favorite movie design by far, although that design could work for a Decepticon with a name like Mohawk.

    I absolutely love, love, love Megatron's and Barricade's redesigns!

    As for the Bots, I wish Hot Rod's face was much more like, say, Crosshairs. Having said that, maybe it will look better in the completed film.

    Speaking of Crosshairs, I'm really, really happy about the return of the Pathetic Dirty Foursome. I love that group of Autobots, and I'm curious to see how they will be with Prime going into space and ending up corrupted while having to deal with both Decepticons and TRF on Earth. I'm willing to bet Hound's become a medic to help out the injured Autobots that are found in the junkyard, and that he and Cade have become closer as a result.
     
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    wait what !? did I miss something ? I know there is a frenzy looking dude, but I heard nothing of him being mohawk
     
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    thats unfair ...

    I am bothered that onslaught is using long haul´s design and it not because of it being agains generation 1 ...

    I just think that having new characters and using old designs is a let down, expecially with a character as cool and known as onslaught ...

    just because someone dislikes something in the films, it doesn´t mean they are geewuns ... an idea I honestly see being thrown around a lot
     
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    It was from the Unicron.com set visit.

    Unicron.com/TFDb Visits the Set of Transformers 5 - The Last Knight - Unicron.com

    Below the pictures of Hooligan's alternate mode it says the following: "Onslaught was driven out to our location specially for us to photograph and Barricade, Mohawk (the motorcycle) and Hooligan the rusty Toaster Van were tucked away in a trailer behind the Autobot garage. Peter told me a funny story about how he and Michael Bay "went out car shopping at nearly the last minute" looking for this vehicle which would become Hooligan! We later saw character art showing this guy's robot mode looks like a rusty toaster van version of the "Dreads" threesome seen in Dark of the Moon."
     
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    As times goes by I've become more accepting of the fact that Hooligan and Onslaught are recycled models, as long as they actually do something in the movie like talk and interact with one another or with Megatron, rather than just walk around or get eviscerated. Holding out hope that they get some form of characterization to a least make them unique.
     
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    I wasn't implying that the complainers would be geewunners, lol
    G1's just an example. I had Starscream, Thundercracker, and Skywarp in mind.
    Hasbro selling repaints of toys is another big comparison.
    My point is, it's a thing that's happened in Transformers all along.
     
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    Onslaught is a recycled model... The Constructicons are now Combaticons??? Maybe we would see Bruticus... with some parts of Devastator??? :popcorn 
     
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    This makes me wish at least one or two Constructicons should have survived. They could have been used to build new cons in TF5 junkyard. Igor was my only chance to see LongHaul return, but idk what happened to him.
     
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    My theory is: Onslaught is green because Long Haul was green. So, Onslaught was built with Long Hauls and other parts to transforms into a green Western Star 4900SF tow truck. The same with Hooligan...

    Maybe someone of The TRF... or a Decepticon... or someone else will build them. The TRF has his own Military Vehicles and Robots... maybe use the Transformers or only the Robot Technology. Or The TRF will use the Technology of the Decepticons. There is this Black Helicopter, who attack The TRF. I think, he is a Decepticon... maybe Vortex. There will be a fight between The TRF and Decepticons, who are maybe with the Decepticons or maybe not, but there will be a big fight. And later The TRF will team up with the Autobots... I think some of the things will happen...

    They transport something, maybe they are hiding a Robot (Bumblebee is fighting a TRF Robot) or some of The TRF Vehicles are Robots... we will see...

    TF5MichaelMPics2.jpg
     
  20. tonyformer

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    Yeah it's never said yet what mohawk looks like. There was a frenzy-like head seen in the early teaser reel video and many speculated that it was Mohawks head.