Space... not happening

Discussion in 'Transformers Movie Discussion' started by Scorpio, Jun 27, 2014.

  1. Scorpio

    Scorpio Well-Known Member

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    So you have seen Transformers; Age Of Extinction and your are highly anticipating the next film where you can see Optimus Prime discover the truth behind his creator and the origins of 'the creators' before using 'the Seed' to create a new Cybertron...

    Seriously, how did nobody else notice that Optimus could use the seed to create a new Cybertron at any time after he acquires it, surely that's something that should have been brought up. The humans have the technology needed and the Autobots have the 'seed' together they could turn a planet into a new Cybertron and bring Cybertronian life back to the Universe...

    However, despite the many cries and screams from fans hoping that we'd finally get a film set somewhere other than Earth - Transformers producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura has flat out stated that a film in Space is unlikely;

    So for those hoping that the next film might be a change of pace, hopes look fairly slim and the chances of a film on Earth revolving around Bumblebee and the escaped Galvatron seem a more likely plotline for Transformers 5 - currently set for release in 2016.

    Source; TRANSFORMERS Producer On Leaving Earth; Says 2nd Trilogy Isn't Definite
     
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    Scorpio Well-Known Member

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    It's alright, I've made the same mistake before. My thread got lost within other threads anyways.

    Regarding the article, a Transformers movie in space will most likely end up as a failure. The films started on Earth and the abrupt change in setting might steer the audience away from seeing the film. Besides, Transformers in any continuity always had some kind of connection with Earth, this might be too far from the source material. Transformers isn't really a space adventure.
     
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    Do you even know what a tactical nuke is? Those are nuclear weapons designed to be used in conventional warfare.

    It can't create a new Cybertron.

    As seen in the movie small portions of Earth was turned to Transformium to be harvested.

    If Cybertron was made of Transformium then Joshua may have the key to rebuilding it without the need for Energon.

    Assuming it came back where it came from.
     
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    Its a terraforming device that can terraforming an area the size of a city. Sure it has the effect of a tactical nuke via killing the population at the time however with some minor changes a device like that could terraform a much larger area - especially with the help of Joshua who cracked the Transformers DNA and Lockdown's spaceship (Still hovering above Hong Kong that probably has several other 'seeds' on-board.

    I mean it creates a Cybertronian landscape, it creates Transformium, it can create a new Cybertron that doesn't need the Allspark to sustain itself. I'm not seeing the issue of using a weapon like that as a means to create.

    Galvatron himself is proof that they can use Transformium to create a new breed of Transformers for example - even the Vehicons had an A.I. to the extent they were almost alive, I think Galvatron even gave them a 'spark/soul' near the end of the movie...

    I'm not saying set it off on Earth or something like that - but what about Mars? Or somewhere uninhabited which the Transformers can terraforming in a similar method to the opening scene terraforming an area of land with the Dinosaurs.

    I get the feeling they could split it and have it switch back and forth between Optimus finding his creators and the Autobots and humans on Earth dealing with the threat of Galvatron - then bring the two stories together at the end by having the Creators attack Earth, Optimus returning, etc...
     
  7. Ephland

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    I don't think the seed was mentioned as a way to create a new Cybertron. I don't remember Cybertron being mentioned at all in AOE.
     
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    Just give them the Moon for Primus sake. It's big enough to support TFs as a small colony and close enough that the Bots can still get to Earth of needed for help lol.
     
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    'The Seed' can be used to create Transformium - it was given to the humans with the potential of terraforming a large area to get more Transformium. I'm sure with some tweaking it can turn whole planets - alternatively I'm sure Lockdown has more of them given it was on the Prime's scout ship.
     
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    Sigh... You just show that you are ignorant of what a tactical nuclear weapon is.

    The Seed cannot create a new Cybertron by itself. This is why Galvatron wanted it set off at the largest city nearby, Hong Kong.
     
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    going by the hypothetical scenario that there are multiple Seeds and that tweaking them can turn a whole planet into Transformium... that doesn't mean you get Cybertron 2.0.

    Now Unicron, on the other hand....

    Did we just write Transformers 5?!?
     
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    I was thinking Metroplex......
     
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    Lorenzo is an ass. He's the guy who said a crossover between Transformers and GIJoe would be hard to do because of schedule and reasons.
     
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    OP hasn't even seen the movie yet and is arguing with people that have. The seed cannot make an entire new Cybertron. It has the blast radius of a city anyway. And last I checked Cybertron was literally huge as all absolute fuck. Multiple times larger Earth. And seeing as like I said the blast radius is that of a city it still wouldn't work even assuming the seed does what you think it would.
     
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    I am not ignorant of what a nuclear weapon is - but 'The seed' as described by the movie is a terraformer. While it has the same effects as a bomb - it produces Transformium as a by-product and chances any organic matter caught in the radius into Transformium as shown by the opening - which is why Harold Attinger wanted it in the first place, to create Transformium.

    Galvatron wanted to set itself off at the largest city because it would wipe out the largest population and give him a massive area of essentially Cyberformed land to do as he pleased and help him create an army using said Transformium which would have been left-over from the explosion.

    OP being me... who has seen the movie three times today. It essentially converts the stuff in the blast radius into Transformium. Why do you think Optimus has it with him? You think he just plans on taking it for no reason? No, he plans on getting it and using it to create a new Cybertron.

    Why do you think they had the cyberforming scene in the beginning if they didn't plan on using it to cyberform something? The first scene of the movie is utterly pointless by your logic -_-

    Possibly... though not sure the Transformium would give create life on its own... mixed with the Matrix as an accelerant however could be used to explain the increased blast radius and its life giving properties... ;) 
     
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    The reason for that scene was to show how Transformium got on Earth for KSI to use. It had nothing to do with Optimus creating a new Cybertron.
     
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    It was also their to explain why they wanted to trade with Lockdown for 'The Seed' - they needed more Transformium as they were running out. Most the Autobots were in hiding so they needed more.

    They were going to use 'The Seed' to terraform a city-sized area and gain more Transformium to research and use.
     
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    Then my apologies. But I remember you saying you weren't going to watch it in theaters but would maybe bootleg. That was like a day ago. Didn't think after that remark you'd have seen it 3 times by now. My point is that yeah, the seed may turn stuff into essentially Cybertronian metal, but that does not equate to being able to recreate a planet. It was just one seed and I don't think it's purpose was for that.
     
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    Sigh... still showing not knowing the difference of a tactical nuclear weapon.

    It was described as a bomb. The bomb that killed Lucas was a grenade version.

    You need thousands upon thousands of Seeds to cyberfom an entire planet. Why did you think the Creators sent an armada to cyberform portions of the Earth's surface. Some Dinosaurs even survived the cyberforming.




    And this is the same guy saying there is an end credits scene where there was none.
     
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    I guess movies like Star Wars, Star Trek and Aliens must be crappy to Lorenzo for taking place in space or alien worlds.