So the moral in AOE's story was...erm..someone help me out here

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  1. gregles

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    Ok I don't come to the movie forums that often so I don't know if this has already covered so the mods are welcome to delete if this thread is just covering too much old ground.

    I finally watched AOE yesterday and I know I was a sleep deprived at the time so I didn't have the greatest concentration span but it dawned on me about half way through that I couldn't seem to tell why all these C.G.I. robots were fighting each other.

    I know a straight forward moral to the tail is not always necessary and can even be a hindrance in allowing the viewer to make up their own minds up but this seemed to have loads of different almost contracting right and wrong morals piled up upon each other. An example I can think of is stand by your family no matter what sentiment portrayed in several scene's unless they are your ancient creator then they are probably some Promethean douche and you should shoot off into space in the finale to hunt them down.

    I usually find fiction with lots of moral grey a great thing but in this it seemed sloppy and like the creators didn't seem to know why these characters were fighting.
     
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    This is Transformers, morals are overrated!
     
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    There are quite a few;

    1) We don't treat our veterans with the respect they deserve.

    2) Progress is good except for when science is scary.

    3) Drone warfare is a really bad thing for nasty wasty meany poops.

    4) The Iraq war was bad. (Major metropolitan tragedy results in the US government going maverick and deciding to hunt down parties only tangentially related to the parties who orchestrated the attack, it's there)

    5) Other extremely confused messages.

    I don't know if it's trying to "say" anything. It gets all caught up in the relativist bullshit that so many movies get trapped in today because they're too afraid to really say something. It's just a collection of vague metaphors for things that sort of sound topical, so that vapid, shallow audiences think they're seeing something meaningful.

    ...

    And I liked this one.
     
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